PURGATORY

PURGATORY IS AN OLD WORD COMING FROM THE EARLY LANGUAGE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, LATIN- I T MEANS TO PURGE , TO CLEAN OR TO
PURIFY-

THIS WORD CAN BE FOUND IN THE LATIN VULGATE THE FIRST BIBLE, ITALIAN AND SPANISH. AND OTHER EUROPEAN BIBLES.


"For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ," (1 Cor. 3:11).

AND CHRIST LAID THIS FOUNDATION TO THE
TWELVE APOSTLES

THE APOSTLES TO THE BISHOPS

AND THE BISHOPS TO THEIR SUCCEEDING BISHOPS


"AS THE FATHER HAS SENT ME SO I SEND YOU
ANYONE WHO REJECTS YOU REJECTS THE ONE WHO SENT
ME"





REVELATION 21:27- "NOTHING UNCLEAN WILL BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD"


1 CORINTHIANS 3:10
PAUL IS SAYING ,"I AS A GOOD ARCHITECT, ACCORDING TO THE

CAPACITY GIVEN TO ME , I LAID THE FOUNDATION

AND NO OTHER IS TO BUILD UPON IT-LET EACH ONE BE CAREFUL HOW HE

BUILDS UPON IT.


... PAUL IS SAYING THAT HE FOUNDED CHURCHES IN HIS MISSION TO

THE GENTILES , NOW SIMILARLY HE WILL SAY THAT HE CAN NOT LAY A

FOUNDATION ON ANOTHER MANS TEACHING IN ROME , I WILL DEAL WITH

THAT LATER IN THE BOOK OF ROMANS.


GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE- DEUTERONOMY 4:24



VERSE 11 "

"NO ONE LAY A FOUNDATION A FOUNDATION OTHER THE ONE WHICH IS

ALREADY LAID, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST"


PAUL IS NOW SAYING THAT THERE IS ANOTHER KIND OF FOUNDATION ,

THE ONE LAID BY JESUS CHRIST - AND WE HAVE TO BUILD ON THAT

FOUNDATION- ATOP OF THAT FOUNDATION AND NOT LAY ANOTHER

FOUNDATION BUT TO BUILD ON THAT FOUNDATION- WHAT ARE THESE


TO CONTINUE.....

verse 12

" THEN IF SOMEONE BUILDS UPON THIS FOUNDATION, ANOTHER WITH

SILVER, AND PRECIOUS STONES, OR WITH WOOD, BAMBOO OR STRAW.



PAUL IS NOW SAYING WE HAVE TO BUILD UPON THIS FOUNDATION


VERSE 13-

"THE WORK OF EACH ONE WILL BE SHOWN FOR WHAT IT IS. THE DAY OF

JUDGEMENT WILL REVEAL IT REPEAT THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WILL REVEAL

IT, BECAUSE FIRE WILL MAKE EVERYTHING KNOWN. THE FIRE WILL TEST

THE WORK OF EVERYONE"




PAUL IS NOW SAYING ON OUR JUDGEMENT DAY WHETHER GENERAL OR

PARTICULAR JUDGMENT -PARTICULAR MEANING OUR OWN VERY PERSONAL

ON THE DAY WE MEET OUR MAKER, WE WILL FACE JESUS CHRIST.

AND THERE IS FIRE - WHERE WILL THIS FIRE COME FROM.


GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE- DEUTERONOMY 4:24



JESUS IS GOD- HE WILL BE OUR JUDGE ON THAT DAY WE MEET OUR MAKER


VERSE 14

"IF YOUR WORK WITHSTANDS THE FIRE YOU WILL BE REWARDED"


PAUL IS NOW SAYING TO EACH ONE OF US THAT OUR WORKS WILL BE LAID

UPON THE FOUNDATION

TO BE BURNED WITH GODS CONSUMING FIRE ON THAT DAY OF OUR

JUDGMENT.OUR DEATH





VERSE 15

"BUT IF YOUR WORK BECOMES ASHES , YOU WILL PAY FOR IT REPEAT YOU

WILL PAY FOR IT

YOU WILL BE SAVED repeat YOU WILL BE SAVED , BUT IT WILL BE AS

IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE"





NOW YOU WILL NOTICE THE VERSES 3:10 TO 15 TALKS ABOUT OUR WORKS

THAT WILL BE LAID ON THAT

FOUNDATION WHICH IS JESUS HIMSELF.


PAUL IS SAYING WHAT THE VALUE OF OUR WORKS OUR LIFE ON THIS EARTH WAS - METHAPHORICALLY ARE

THESE WORTH IN GOLD- THOSE WHO LIVED A VERY HOLY AND SAINTLY LIFE ON EARTH


WORTH IN SILVER -LOWER THAT THE WORKS OF THE SAINTS AND THE

APOSTLES


WORTH IN PRECIOUS STONES- I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN THIS. PRECIOUS

STONES DURING THOSE TIMES WERE NOT MUCH APPRECIATED AS TODAY

BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY AT THAT TIME HAS NO MEANS TO

GET THE BEAUTY FROM THIS STONES- THEY COULD NOT CUT AND POLISH

IT LIKE THEY DO TO THE

DIAMONDS OF TODAY. KAYA THIRD RATE NA PRECIOUS LANG ANG MGA ITO-

IT WAS STILL GOLD THAT

WAS THE NUMBER ONE.


HOW ABOUT THOSE WHOSE WORKS OF WOOD BAMBOO AND STRAW- THEY WILL

BURN - MEANING

YOUR WORKS DURING YOUR LIFE ON EARTH WERE NOT SO COMMENDABLE IN

THE SIGHT OF GOD. YOU COMMITED SINS THAT WILL NOT RESULT TO DEATH

YOU WILL BE SAVED ACCORDING TO THE VERSES BUT YOU WILL PAY

AS IF PASSING TO FIRE- YES MY FRIEND THAT IS PURGATORY- CALL IT

ANYWAY YOU WANT - IT IS A PLACE TO PURIFY YOU IN THE SIGHT OF

GOD.



WHY DID DAVID AND NEHEMIAH FASTED MOURNED AND PRAYED FOR THEIR

DEAD?

NEHEMIAH 1:4 NEHEMIAH FASTED PRAYED AND MOURNED FOR THE DEAD ,

1:7 FOR THE SINS OF HIS FAMILY AND HIS FATHER WHO DIED AND WAS BURIED IN THE RUINS
2:3 HIS FATHER IS DEAD AND BURIED


1 SAM 31:13 -DAVID TOOK THE BONES OF SAUL AND SON JONATHAN
2nd SAM 1:4 -SAUL AND SON JONATHAN ARE DEAD

1:11- DAVID FASTED PRAYED AND MOURNED FOR SAUL JONATHAN AND THE DEAD


SO NOW YOU WILL SEE THE JEWS REALLY PRAYED FOR THEIR DEAD

MATT 5:25-26 "YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO PRISON UNTIL THE LAST PENNY IS PAID"

matt 12:32- THERE WILL BE NO FORGIVENESS FOR THOSE WHO BLASPHEMY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THIS LIFE OR IN THE NEXT TO COME- WHAT IS THIS TO COME??

1 peter 3:18-20 "JESUS IN HIS SPIRIT PREACHED TO THIS SPIRITS IN PRISON"- WHO ARE THEN THESE SPIRITS THAT JESUS PREACHED TO, THEY HAVE BEEN DEAD SINCE THE GREAT FLOOD- CERTAINLY THIS IS NOT HELL- SOULS IN HELL ARE
INCOMMUNICADO- ALL HOPES ARE LOST- AND CONDEMNED FOREVER AND EVER AMEN.

1 JOHN 5:16-17 - SINS THAT WILL NOT RESULT TO THE DEATH OF YOUR SOUL AND THAT IS ETERNAL DAMNATION


PAUL SAYS IN 1 COR 3:15 YOU WILL BE REWARDED- YOU WILL PAY ,AS IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE

AND HOW WILL YOU PAY??

YOU WILL PAY UP TO LAST PENNY-THE GOSPWL SAYS

THE SPIRITS IN PRISON- HAD THEY PAID AND JESUS WILL NOW TAKE THEM OUT OF THAT PRISON FOR THE PROMISE OF HIS
RESURRECTION CAN NOW BE IMPLEMENTED-


THE NEXT AGE TO COME??- IS THIS HEAVEN? CERTAINLY NOT- FOR YOU ARE PAID AND FORGIVEN IN HEAVEN

IS THIS HELL-? you can not pay anymore- you have been damned

WHAT IS THIS PLACE AWAITING FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS- THERE IS ONLY ONE PLACE - AS IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE-
FOR YOU ARE BEING PURIFIED-

REVELATION- NOTHING UNCLEAN CAN ENTER HEAVEN-

THIS PLACE OF PURIFICATION CLEANS YOU UP FOR SINS THAT DOES NOT RESULT TO DEATH-

CALL IT WHAT YOU LIKE- BUT YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT THERE IS SUCH PLACE-

AND IT IS THE MERCY OF GOD FOR A SECOND CHANCE AND NO PLACE TO GO AFTER BUT TO HEAVEN-

Post #2
Elias Arzadon Jr wroteon December 8, 2009 at 9:09am
Purgatory


Intermediate state: Purgatory. No second chances – the souls there are saved, but through fire (1 Corinthians 3:15)


“There is a purgatory, and the souls there detained are assisted by the suffrages of the faithful, but especially by the most acceptable sacrifice of the altar” (Council of Trent).


This dogmatic definition contains 3 points of faith that all Catholics are required to believe:

1. There is a purgatory

2. After death, souls suffer there for their sins

3. The living can extend assistance to such souls


There is a purgatory



Forgiveness of sin in the next – Matthew 12:32

“Under the earth” – Revelations 5:2-3; Philippians 2:10



After death, souls suffer there for their sins

“You will not come out of it till you pay the last penny” – Matthew 5:26

“Matthean Parallel” (See: Matthew 18:23-35)

“Lazarusian Incident” (See: Luke 16:19-31)

Spirits in prison – 1 Peter 3:18-20; 4:6


The living can extend assistance to such souls


Restrain not grace from the dead – Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 7:37

See: Ruth 1:8

Offerings/Sacrifice for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:38-36

“And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection” (2 Maccabees 12:43, Douay-Rheims Bible).


Fasting for the for the dead

1 Samuel 31:13;

1 Chronicles 10:12

2 Samuel 1:12


Prayer for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:44-46

“It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins” (2 Maccabees 12:46, Douay-Rheims Bible).


See: Nehemiah 1:4-6, cf. Nehemiah 2:5


Understanding Purgatory:


1. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands knowing the nature/attributes of God:

God is Holy (Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Revelations 4:8; Leviticus 11:44

God is Just (1 John 1:9; Revelations 15:3)

God is Merciful (Psalm 116, Lamentations 3:22, Psalm 103:8)

See: Ruth 2:20

God is Love (1 John 4:8, 16)


2. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands a proper understanding of the concept of sin:


Gradation (degrees) of sin

Mortal Sin vs. Venial Sin (1 John 5:16-17)