Friday, January 15, 2010

ANG KATWIRAN NG ISANG ADD SA FACEBOOK NA SI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ


SAGOT NI TEEWEE SA POST NI MICHEL RYAN


STATEMENT NI MICHAEL RYAN

Oo bagsak ang science mo dahil hindi bituka ang nagdudugtong ng sanggol sa ina nya.Siguro po mag-aral ka ng anatomy kasi wala yan sa biology, ang tawag sa yo PANGAHAS NA WALANG NALALAMANG ANUMAN KUNDI MAY SAKIT SA MGA USAPAN.Magmamarunong ka lang po eh palpak pa. Sa sinoman po na sincere sa paghanap ng totoo, eto po ang sagot ng kapatid na Eli na sagot ko rin, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfHA-wl9qI at sa tanong po naisa pa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzhcCGwAfo8&feature=relat ed



TEEWEE's COMMENT

NAMIMILOSOPO LANG PO SI MICHAEL RYAN SA ISINAGOT NG ISANG KATOLIKO NA SI FIX ME - ANG IBIG SABIHIN NITO
NA MAGKARUGTONG ANG BITUKA NG INA AT SANGGOL SA SINAPUPUNAN AY ANG INA KUNG DI KAKAIN HINDI DIN KAKAIN ANG BATA-

AT PAREHO SILANG MAMAMATAY- TINALUNAN NA LANG NITONG MICHAEL ANG PAGKAKATAON DAHIL IPIT NA IPIT NA ITONG
SUPER TALINONG TAONG ITO SA KATWIRAN NIYA

YUN LANG PO ANG IBIG NIYANG SABIHIN - KASI ANG WALANG KATWIRAN AT UBOS NA
PATI TUTONG FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING AY KINAKAIN NA DIN. KAYA PATI TUTONG SA SINAING AY PINATULAN NA NI MICHAEL
RYAN.

yung mga succeeding comment niya ay litanya nananman niya at paniwalang paniwala siya na ligtas na ligtas na siya sa langit.

Thursday, January 14, 2010

Is Christ A Man Or God?


TIGNAN NATIN KUNG ANONG KLASENG THEOLOGY ANG ITINURO NI INGKONG SA MGA NALOKO NIYA.

ITO ANG SABI NG NG KANYANG MEMBER NA SI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ. BASAHIN PO NATIN.

Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.A person who denies this is a liar to himself, 1 John 2:22-23 and is an antichrist.For those who doubt this, please allow an understanding I learned from my preachers, Brother Eli and Brother Daniel.Christ existed with God the Father even before there was time.He spoke of this in Proverbs 8:22-31 as the Wisdom of God. Now to further prove it, 1 Corinthians 1:24 says Christ is the power and the wisdom of God.This person who is speaking is the Wisdom of God, who is also Christ, said in verse 22 " The Lord(God the Father) possessed me(Christ) in the beginning of His way, BEFORE HIS WORKS OF OLD( Nothing was there except the 2 of them, The Father and the Son). Truly a person to be present with God the Father whenever it was, can only be a person like Himself, a God.

I'm sorry.But from what I've learned, you will not find a verse in the Bible that Jesus Christ is true God AND TRUE MAN. What you will find is, the Lord Jesus Christ is a true God who came in the flesh and coming IN the flesh does not mean that HE is flesh like man. A simple logic, When you come to a place using a car, you came there IN the car, you are not the car. I'm sorry, I understand you, I was once a catholic and believed what you believe about Christ. But I thank God for opening my understanding to His teachings through the preachings of Bro. Eli Soriano and Bro. Daniel Razon. I was once blind but now I can see!

I thank God for giving me the chance to see what I formerly don't see, to know the truth from lies but most importantly to be able to live the rest of my life in His service. People around the world are still seeking for the answers to the questions, " What is the meaning of life or essence of living in this world? What is my purpose? Where am I heading and what is the end? What lies ahead of my journey, what am I destined to be?Etc...?" God gave me the answers to these questions through the preachings of Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon. And knowing the answer to these questions people of all walks of life were striving to know, are, I would say, gifts from God that should be lived and kept in faith.
We in the Church of God are blessed to have the only God-send preachers in this time. To learn from their teachings, whether by their lectures or the examples of their lives. I can confidently,contently, and faithfully say that every detail in the lives of Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon is part of God's teachings of the Gospel, nothing goes to waste. Even when at times they don't speak, just by mere looking at their works, God is still teaching us of goodness, holiness and righteousness,may not be written literally in the Bible, but is through the working of the Holy Spirit Who dwells in them. The work of God's Spirit in them is without measure.

I'm sorry to say this but you are wrong. You used John 1:14 wrongly. If I will follow your logic here, you said, "here in this verse the God became flesh!!and human has flesh.. so therefore Jesus is Human also.." it will be misleading. Why? because based on your claim that human HAS flesh and God became flesh, it will led to the conclusion that God is human? I'm sorry, but your logic is wrong. Not all logic is logical, I learned from my preachers that illogical logic is called fallacy. Claiming that the Lord Jesus Christ is God and also human is wrong. John 1:14 said that the WORD became flesh...I would like to share what Brother Eli said once, "Being able to read a verse should not lead you to the conclusion that it is the content of the whole Bible, it's just a verse and not the whole Bible." Seeing the tip of an iceberg from afar doesn't mean that what you saw is the actual size of the iceberg, it's a lot bigger at the bottom.
My point is not because you read John 1:14, doesn't mean that what you think is the actual truth of it. Actually, based on the wordings you used, my answer is there, "And the Word BECAME flesh..." So the Word is not flesh, He just BECAME flesh. The original greek word for this is GINOMAI which means to cause to be or to become. When you say "to cause to be" it means CHANGE. I hope you understand that. When the Word became flesh, the Word underwent change to be in the flesh but not that He is flesh. Why does this have to be necessary? Based on what I've learned from my preachers, Christ has to undergo change for the flesh body to contain Him. Remember, Christ is also a God and being in that nature, He is far glorious than all creations. And He used that flesh body as a vehicle or vessel to teach man and to save us from our sins.
I'm not saying that you can just rely on my answer. NO! I'm just a worthless member in the Church of God who is sharing to you sincerely what I learned from my preachers. Brother Eli and Brother Daniel are the best persons to ask your questions because they are the messengers of God. I'm just a nobody.

I'm sorry Kuroro, I'm not in the position to discuss with you.Just like what I said awhile ago, I'm just a member in the Church of God, a nobody. I'm not a malapert kind of person. It's useless to discuss or share the gospel to people who are not looking for answers for the reason of the hope that is in the Church of God. I noticed that you are just asking for useless talk, I'm sorry but I have no time for that. I sense that whatever verse or information we share to you, you will just insist your own so called "theology".
In situations such as this, God commanded us, " But shun profane babblings: for they will proceed further in ungodliness, and their word will eat as doth a gangrene:" and " But foolish and ignorant questionings refuse, knowing that they gender strifes." 1 Timothy 2:16-17, 23.
Our God is commanding us to refuse foolish and ignorant questionings, like yours. If you want a debate or discussion, tell your pastor, preist or whatever you call your religious leaders to challenge our preacher in the Church of God, Brother Eli Soriano. I'm sorry if they will just disappoint you, they will not and will never come out to defend your faith.

I'm so sorry again Kuroro, please let me correct the verse I gave you. It's from 2 Timothy 2:16-17,23. May I site again a verse that is not far from the previous verses. Please look at 2 Timothy 2:14, " Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them in the sight of the Lord, that they strive not about words, to no profit, to the subverting of them that hear."
The intent of not involving ourselves to foolish and ignorant questionings that lead to strife is for the benefit of those that hear, not to be the cause of their downfall. And also it's for our benefit in the Church of God, in that by not involving ourselves to such, we will not err from the truth and will also not cause the overthrow of the faith of some of our members. It's in 2 Timothy 2:17-18, " and their word will eat as doth a gangrene: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; men who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some." With God's help and guidance, I will not intend and follow in the examples of these evil people, Hymenaeus and Philetus.
I hope you understand. If you are asking for reason or righteousness, or the hope that we have in the Church of God, I will gladly spare some of my time and share what I've learned from my preachers, Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon.

TEEWEE'S ANSWER:

michael you have no argument whatsoever-
you are just beating around the bush and citing eli soriano-

WHERE IS THE BEEF OF YOUR ARGUMENT? you cited a long one

but what is your point-?

You analogy is even very poor - Jesus did not come LIKE A CAR
If jesus did not come int the flesh the crucifixion is just a big moro moro thing

JESUS WAS NOT HURT IN FACT HE WAS TICKLED- BECAUSE YOU WILL NOW BE
SAYING HE IS GOD AND CAN ISOLATE THE PAIN- THEN YOU ARE AN ANTICHIRST

1 JOHN 4:2 how will you recognize the spirit of God? ANY SPIRIT RECOGNIZING JESUS AS THE CHRIST WHO HAS TAKEN OUR FLESH IS OF GOD.

YOUR ANALOGY OF YOU RIDING THE CAR IS ABSURD- AND HORRIBLE
WHEN THE CARS MOTOR FAILS TO RUN- DO YOU ALSO SAY YOU CAN NOT WALK- NO YOU GET OUT OF IT AND ASK FOR A MECHANIC OR HAVE IT TOWED- ANG LAYO PARE KO- ANO BA YAN

TAKEN OUR FLESH- read the gospel of JOHN THE VERSE WAS GIVEN ALREADY
READ JOHN 1:1-18 - he has taken our flesh and lived with us-
Like a natural man- who gets hurt , sweats and cries- and bleeds

or ELSE THE CRUCIFIXION WILL BE THE GREATEST MOCKERY THAT GOD
HAS EVEN DONE TO HIS PEOPLE- MORO MORO LANG YAN- OR DRAMA

THE COVENANT HAS TO BE SEALED BY BLOOD- AND ALL COVENANTS WERE
HEALED BY THE BLOOD OF ANIMALS-

SINCE JESUS WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE LAST AND EVERLASTING
COVENANT WHICH WAS THE GOSPEL- DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING

HE SEALED IT HIMSELF BY HIS BLOOD- THE LAMB WHO WILL TAKE AWAY
THE SINS OF THE WORLD- AND NO OTHER COVENANT FOLLOWS-

NO MORE PROPHETS NO MORE ANGELS AND NO MORE APOSTLES THAT WILL COME- TO TEACH ANOTHER KIND OF GOSPEL- ONLY THE ONE THAT HE LAID

READ 1 COR 3:10-15- THE FOUNDATION LAID BY CHRIST AND NO ONE SHOULD LAY ANOTHER


AND LUKE 16:16 no more prophets and no more mosaic law

IN FACT IT IS YOU WHO MUST BE AVOIDED- YOU ARE GIVING STUPID

REASONS AND THE VERSE THAT YOU GAVE ON 2 TIMOTHY IT IS ABOUT

USELESS CONVERSATIONS- AND YOU JUST STARTED ONE STUPID CONVERSATION

THE ISSUE WAS ABOUT CHRIST AS MAN A NATURAL MAN TOO-
AND NOT JUST A BODY THAT HE WORE-

HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE VIRGIN MARY - AND GREW UP JUST LIKE
YOU AND ME-

HE HAD TWO INSEPARABLE NATURES -ONE OF MAN AND GOD-

EPH- "HE SHED HIS DIVINITY AND TOOK THE FORM OF SERVANT"pHIL 2:6-8

IF JESUS WERE NOT TRULY MAN - HE SHOULD HAVE SHED THAT BODY WHEN
HE WENT TO HEAVEN

IT IS LIKE YOU RIDING THE CAR AGAIN- THE JESUS SHOULD HAVE PARKED
THE CAR LEFT IT ANG WENT TO HEAVEN- NOW WHAT WILL YOU SEE
WHEN HIS SPIRIT IS INVISIBLE- YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION

HE IS TRULY GOD AND TRULY HUMAN

FOOLISH CONVERSATION? or are you used up na?

PROVING JESUS TO BE A MAN IS NOT A FOOLISH CONVERSATION-

IN FACT IT IS IN THE BIBLE- 1 JOHN 4:2

AND HOW MANY TIMES DID HE SAY THAT HE IS THE SON OF MAN TOO

i thinks it is a heresy the one of NESTORIUS- or the NESTORIAN HERESY

THAT YOU ARE TEACHING- TALO NA YAN

IN FACT THE JEWS BELIEVED THAT HE IS ONLY A MAN- AND THE SON
OF A CARPENTER AND BORN OF A WOMAN NAMED MARY-

BUT HE WAS ASKED THIS QUESTION-

"SO YOU ARE THE CHRIST THE SON OF GOD?"- AND HE SAID
YES YOU ARE RIGHT I AM" JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED BECAUSE OF THIS
AND THE IGLESIA NI MANALO ARE UNHAPPY BECAUSE JESUS SAID
HE IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE JEWS ALSO KNOWS THAT SON OF GOD
IS GOD

ON THE OTHER HAND- HAD THE QUESTION BEEN

SO YOU ARE THE CHRIST THE SON OF MARY-?" JESUS WILL JUST REPLY
YES I AM- BECAUSE HE IS THE SON OF MARY- AND JESUS IS NOT A LIAR
AND HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SET FREE- NO MORE CRUCIFIXION AND SATAN
IS HAPPY.

AND THE INC OF MANALO WILL BE HAPPY TOO


BUT THE SANHEDRIN WANTED TO TRAP HIM- SO THEY ASKED OF HIS
DIVINITY- WHICH HE DID REPLY BY SAYING HE IS GOD

NOW MARY COULD HAVE RUN TO THE SANHEDRIN AND SAID TO THEM
BECAUSE CRUCIFIXION IS SUCH A HORRIBLE DEATH- IT IS DEATH BY
DROWNING WITHOUT WATER BECAUSE YOUR LUNGS ARE COMPRESSED

AND A MOTHER WILL LIE JUST EXTRICATE HIS SON FROM THE JAWS
OF DEATH-

BUT THE MOTHER KNOWS THE ROLE OF JESUS TO SAVE MAN FROM
HELL- THAT IS WHY THE CRUCIFIXION HAS TO TAKE PLACE-

IF I AM BLOTTED FROM THIS GROUP- "I LOVE YOU JESUS" IS THE GROUP
JUST MEET ME THERE

TAKOT YANG MGA KASAMA MO THEY HAVE ABANDONED ALL THEIR GROUPS
THAT WE KNOW


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego salamat po sa comment mo. Masasabi ko po, yung pong sinasabi mo ay interpretation lamang po ng mga pastor o ministro mong walang nalalamang anuman sa Panginoong Jusucristo. Sa nabasa ko po sa mga sinabi mo, hindi po katuwiran ang hinahanap mo kundi walang kabuluhang usapan na humahantong lamang po sa pagtatalo. I'm sorry, but what I said about Kuroro's intentions also applies to yours and my reply to him is the same with yours. Maintindihan mo man po o hindi, it's not my problem or obligation para magpaunawa sa mga tao pong hindi tatanggap ng paliwanag.
Hindi po ako narito para makipagtalo sa inyo ng mga kasama mo. I started with sharing light to the person who seems cannot understand what is being talked about and I stayed there. Then I noticed comments like yours na nag-aanyaya po ng pagtatalo, I'm very sorry. Kung gusto mo po ng diskusyon, kausapin mo po ang pastor mo na labanan ang kapatid na Eli sa diskusyon, sa TV, hindi po yung ikaw ang tatayo para sa kanya. Kung di ka naman po puno ng relehiyon, wala ka pong karapatan makipagtalo patungkol sa pananampalataya dahil TINUTURUAN KA LANG. Ang bagay na ito ay maluwag ko pong tanggap sa puso at sarili ko, ALAM KO PO KUNG SAAN AKO DAPAT LUMUGAR.

You sited 1 John 4:2, "This is how you can recognize God's Spirit: Every spirit who acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God."
Ang nakalagay po sa Bible, Jesus Christ has come IN THE FLESH hindi taken our flesh, ANG LAYO PARE MO. Kaya ka po naliligaw, gumagamit kayo ng translation na pabor lang po sa sarili nyong theology. Isa pa po, you are making me claim statements that you yourself said and I will never say. Sana po kung gusto mong mag-share at mag-dispute about what has been said, hwag mo po sanang i-dispute ang hindi naman po sinabi, at conlusion mo lang. Maniwala po kayo, kung sa totoong Korte po, talo ka po agad sa kaso dahil lalabas pong kasinungalingan ang inilalaban mo. I know this dahil po dito sa US, real court trials are being shown on TV at hindi man po kami experts, but we know the rules of argumentation. I'm sorry to say this pero honestly po, magulo po ang argumentation mo brother.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

BRO ANO PARATI KANG GANYAN PURO KWENTO LANG- HOW GOOD IS YOUR

INTERPRETATION - WHO AUTHORIZED YOU TO INTERPRET

TAKEN OUR FLESH- ANO BA YAN VERBAL ENGINEERIN NA BA YAN-

WHOSE FLESH DID HE TAKE-

DID HE NOT TAKE THE FLESH OF HIS MOTHER-

HE GREW INSIDE HIS MOTHERS WOMB

ABA ABOGADO KA BA?? sabihim mo nga kasi abogado ako

hiindi ka pala abogado - pagtatawanan ka lang ng huwes niyan

dishin out senseless ananlogies and interpretation-

tell me are you authorized to interpret- use the bible and tell me who are authorized-

akala mo magugulat mo ako

pastor ha- mga walang pinagaralan yan-

dun ka pumasok sa mga may pinagaraln

ilang versikulo lang eh akala mo me pinagaralan na

bro nambobola ka lang akala mo ba- natatawa ako sa mga pinagsasabi mo

this is an international forum- be careful of what you say

buti tinagalog mo- eh mapapahiya ka dian sa mga sinasabi mo-

ang haba haba ng mga sinasabi mo - walang laman

put beef in what you are sying ha

taken our flesh- became flesh- come into the flesh
are all the same in meaning- paiikutin mo pa ako

SIGE BABALIKAN KITA AT AYUSIN MO ANG SAGOT MO-

I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH SENSELESS STATEMENTS COMING FROM A PERSON

IT BOILS MY BLOOD- PLEASE DO NOT TREAT THE READERS AS IDIOTS-

IT VERY WELL GOES BACK TO YOU

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

brother, salamat po ulit sa comment mo. Pasensya ka na po, kahit naman po kasi kumulo ang dugo mo, the readers know what I'm trying to point out, ikaw lang ang di nakakaunawa kasi po di ka tumatanggap ng paliwanag. Malinaw po ang sinasabi ko and from what I know, a person who doesn't engage to useless talk such as what you are doing, is wiser than your kind. We members in the Church of God are not discussing to cause trouble or stir the faith of our fellow members but just to share sincerely the hope that is in us, only when asked.
Kung sinasabi mo pong walang beef sa sinabi ko, sa yo lang po yun. The readers know and can discern my intentions, although maybe, you are not one of them that can discern. Brother, sorry po, hindi ko po ibibigay sa yo ang katuwiran ng Dios na sagot para yurakan mo lang. The clarity in the Word of God is not for all people. My recommendation to you is ask your own pastor, the same disputes you're asking me or if you're not content of their answers, then it's best that you ask the only sensible preacher in our time, Brother Eli Soriano.Yun po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

haha si soriano ang pasagutin mo dito -

you have been beating around the bush - then take soriano and let him answer

him-

alm m wala kang nasasagot kanina pa eh

then what is the flesh of Jesus - iba nanaman ang pinasok mo
mukang naglolokohan lang yata tayo-

ah - ano kaya ang dugo ni Jesus bka synthethic blood-

tapos ang flesh niya soya beans extract ano-

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYANDELA CRUZ:

salamat po sa comment mo july. Pasensya ka na po pero yung sinabi mo po ay coupled ng tawa na walang karunungang sagot. You are mocking Christ and my preacher.Please, don't call me bro, hindi po tayo magkapatid.Sa mga kagaya mo po, wala po akong sagot na ibabahagi.yun po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

ang logic mo malayo- ang analogy mo malayo-

then give me the meaning of this three according to you interpretation

jesus came into the flesh

became flesh

and has taken our flesh

I want you to give you meaning of the three above mr wise guy?

loko ka iniscratch mo pa ako ha-

You know i have pasted every thing here and will attack in in BLOG

 SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego, you're going too far.You are already mocking My Lord Jesus Christ. Sana po yung kalokohan mo dalhin mo na lang sa bubble gang, mas patok ka doon at sa mga tulad mo. Like what I said, you cannot get an answer from me because you don't deserve it.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

YOU IDIOT YOU ARE THE ONE MOCKING JESUS CHRIST-

HINDI KITA KAPATID AT MABUTI SINABI MO WALA AKONG KAPATID NA DEMONYO

PURO KAYO KALOKOHAN SA MGA PINAGSASABI NINYO-

I DONT DESERVE IT? - I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER FROM
YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE AN ANSWER

TO YOUR STUPID STATEMENTS- GOOD YOU ARE TALKING THAT WAY
IN TIME YOU WILL SEE THIS BLOGGED

GETZ MO HA

YOU WHAT - WHY DONT YOU TRY SELLING DVDs INSTEAD

THE WAY YOU REASON OUT AND SAY THINGS - ARE THE WAYS

OF THOSE WHO SELL DVDS IN GREENHILLS-

PATIGASAN NA TALAGA NG MUKHA ANO-

KAPAL MO

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN  DELA CRUZ:

Hindi po, mali ka po ngh iniisip. Kunin mo po sana sa context ang sinabi ko. You started with mocking my Lord Jesus Christ and my preacher, kaya sinabi ko pong please, don't call me bro, hindi po tayo magkapatid. Whoever that has something evil to say about my God or my preacher is not a brother to me but an enemy. Makuntento ka po dyan.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

YOU SAID THE VERY EVIL THING ABOUT JESUS CHRIST ALREADY

DENYING THAT HE CAME INTO THIS WORLD AS A NORMAL MAN LIKE

EVERY NORMAL HUMAN CAN BE-

SIGE THEN EXPLAIN THE HUMANITY OF JESUS CHRIST-

WAG MO NA AKO PAIKUTIN KO KASI KUNG KAHARAP KITA SA DEBATE

EH ANG MGA TAO ME GAGAWIN NA SA IYO -

OK - SIGE IPALIWANAG MO ANG HUMANITY NI JESUS CHRIST

WHAT KIND OF FLESH DID HE TAKE AND THE BLOOD THAT HE HAS


SAGOT NI MICHAEL DELA CRUZ:

Diego, malinaw po ngayon sa akin na nandito ka sa discussion board para humanap ng taong pasasamain mo sa blog mo. Sana po mabago pa ang nasa isip mo bago ka magkasala ng malaki sa Dios. Hindi po ako natatakot sa gagawin mo, alam po namin na ang mga masasamang tao ay patuloy na gagawang may kasamaan at wala sa masasama na makakaunawa. Alam din po namin na hindi kayo titrigil sa pagpapasama sa daang matuwid ng Panginoon. Kung gagawin mo ito o hindi, magpapasalamat pa po ako ng marami sa aming Dios.

Again Diego, you cannot get any answer from me because you don't deserve it. I'm sorry.Sana po makuntento ka na sa sagot ko.Salamat po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

IPAPAKITA KO LANG SA MUNDO ANG MGA KAGAGUHAN NINYO KAAWAY

DONT EVER MENTION THE NAME OF GOD YOU HAVE NO GOD!!!!!
HINDI KITA TINATAKOT

ANG MGA TAO ANG GAGAWA SA INYO DAHIL SA MGA KAGAGUHANG PINAGSASABI MO DITO KAAWAY
AH YAN ANG SABIHIN MO SA PUNO MO PARA HINDI SIYA NAGTATAGO
SA MGA KAAWAY NIYA

I WAS LOOKING FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND YOU REALLY ENTERTAINED
ME KAAWAY

YEAH YOU DID

YOU KNOW YOU BETTER HAVE YOURSELF CHECKED UP BY A SHRINK

AND FIND OUT IF YOUR STL OK WITH YOUR COCO UP THERE HUH


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

fix me your broken, sa katotohanan po, malinaw ang turo ng kapatid na Eli, sa mga taong binubuksan ng Dios ang unawa. Kung sa yo po hindi malinaw, may dahilan po ang Dios na Sya lamang ang nakakaalam. Again po, kung di po deserving ang taong humihingi ng sagot, di ko po ibibigay. Di po namin dinidios ang kapatid na Eli, malaki lamang po ang paggalang namin sa Kanya dahil Sya po ang sugo ng Dios. Kung di nyo po ito tanggap, makuntento na po sana kayo sa sinabi ko.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

AH SAAN SA BIBLE SINASABI NA ISINUGO SIYA NG DIYOS

SIGE KAAWAY TRY TO CNVINCE ME ON THIS ONE PARA ENTERTAINED NAMAN

AKO SA IYO-


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego, you can mock me anytime you want. If the people will judge me according to your standards, then it favors you. But I personally believe that most people are wiser than your level. Basahin mo po ang mga sinabi mo sa akin then ask your conscience kung sa tingin mo nakakuha ka ng kaibigan o ng taong pasasamain sa blog mo.Ikaw lang po ang nagtuturing sa akin na kaaway. I"m sorry, but if you have problems with people who don't want to talk because they want to exercise not involving with useless argumentation, alam mo na po siguro kung sino ang dinidios mo at kaaway po ang hanap mo.You came to the wrong place sir. Better look some place else where they welcome people like you.Be content.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

AT MY LEVEL?

you know I HAVE TO DIG SO LOW IN THE GROUND JUST TO REACH YOUR LEVEL

YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING NOR REASON OUT WITH ANYTHING

YES I WILL BLOG EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID AND IN SEQUENCE

SO PEOPLE WILL FIND OUT HOW STUPID YOU ARE KAAWAY

PROBABLY THE WORLD WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU WHEN THEY READ IT

YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC WAY OF TRYING TO BE SMART

BUT YOU OVERDID YOURSELF AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE COMEDY ALREADY-

WHOEVER YOU ARE - I KNOW HOW IT IS TO BE A PAID HACK-

IT IS A TOUGH WAY TO LIVE

DO YOU FIND IT HARD TO FIND A JOB? probably so-

BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE A FOOL

COME ON MAKE ME LAUGH MORE


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Sorry po again to both of you, you don't deserve the answer. Please be content with that. You can stop trying to convice me because I'm hard as a rock with what I stand for.You can say a lot of mockery or lies against me but you will still not get any answer from me.May the Lord God have mercy and enlighten you.Goodbye po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

NO WHO SAID WE ARE OUT TO CONVINCE YOU

STAY PUT IN YOUR CULT-

WE DO NOT NEED YOU IN OURS ANYWAY

WE ARE ONLY SEEKING ENTERTAINMENT FROM YOU

AND YOU REALLY ARE A GOOD ENTERTAINER


SABI NI FIX ME:

si iNgkOng at iKAw ang HINDI DESERVING...

bAkit??? kaSi purO kaYO taKBO...

wahahahahaha!!!

kaPAg naSa deBAte si ingkong pUrO PAGMUMURA aaBUTin ng kaTungaLi...

kaHit sa ExPo ninYO pagMUMURA lang ang bUkam bibiG ng MAesTra mOh...

kawawa ka talga...

taHan nah sA pag-iYak mR.de la cRuz...

kAtoliKo pa yUng sUrname mOh...


naLokO ka sa isang maNLOLOKo...

cgE kita kitz baka mAy sagot ka kUng bAkit ang DioS maY pwet///??


ANO ANG MASASABI MO DITO ELI SORIANO? TULUNGAN MO ANG MIEMBRO MO PARA HINDI NAGMUMUKHANG KAWAWA.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010

THE CATHOLIC 'CRIME' OF CALLING PRIESTS 'FATHER'


Mt 23: 8–10 …Call no man your father…

If this passage was meant to be taken literally, then we all offend the Scripture. We all have used “father” to designate our birth father; and we refer to as “teacher,” our instructors at school. On the other hand, the meaning of the scripture is that no person should be given the respect and honor exclusive to God the Father.


* If we will follow the reasoning of the Anti-Catholics it means that the Protestants, Born Again, Iglesia ni Cristo, ADD who put the name of their biological parent in 'Father' on Birth Certificates and School records will go to hell because they have committed abominable crime against the Lord. They called someone 'father'! [What will they call their male parent then? Well, they can call them 'Dogs' if they want.] I'm not referring to them as dogs; I simply show the absurdity of their position.

BIBLICAL REASONS FOR CALLING VARIOUS PEOPLE ‘FATHER’

If the Protestant interpretation of Mt 23:9 is to be followed the entire GODHEAD SHALL BE DESTROYED!

1. THE FATHER ALMIGHTY Himself will be dishonored because He called people ‘father’. GOD THE FATHER IS GUILTY OF THE CATHOLIC CRIME.

Gen 12:1 He asked Abram to leave his father’s house.

Gen 17:5 He made Abraham father of many nations.

Gen 28:13 He called Abraham father of Jacob.

Ex 3:6 …I am the God of thy FATHER…

Ex 3:16 …say…The LORD God of your FATHERS…

Ex 20:12 HONOUR THY FATHER and thy mother… (Also, Dt 5:16)

Ex 22:17 If her FATHER utterly refuse to give her…

Ex 22:22 Ye shall not afflict any widow, or FATHERless.

Ex 40:15 …anoint them, as thou didst their FATHER…

Lev 18 Yahweh used ‘father’ for people 9 times.

Lev 19:3 Ye shall fear every man his… FATHER…

Num 12:16 If her (Miriam) FATHER had but spit in her face… (also in Num 13:2)

Jer 7: 7, 14, 18, 22, 25-26 Yahweh called people ‘fathers’ 6 times.

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day that I took them by the hand… [Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day I took them by the hand to lead them out of the Land of Egypt…]

Ezek 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your FATHERS; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

2. JESUS TOO WILL BE GUILTY OF THE CATHOLIC CRIME; He is violating His own word.


Mt 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the FATHER the child…

Mt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his FATHER…

Mt 10:37 He that loveth FATHER or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Mt 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or FATHER…for my name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Lk 12:53 The FATHER shall be divided against the son, and the son against the FATHER…

Lk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his FATHER, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren…he cannot be my disciple.

Lk 16:24 [Jesus narrating ‘The Rich Man and Lazarus’] And he cried and said, FATHER Abraham, have mercy on me… (See also v. 27 & 30)

Lk 18:20 HONOUR THY FATHER and thy mother.

Jn 6:58 This is the bread which came down from heaven: not as your FATHERS did eat manna, and are dead…


3. THE HOLY SPIRIT SHALL BE GUILTY TOO OF THE CRIME because people prophesied by His inspiration and called people ‘father’.

(a) Lk 1: 67 Zechariah was FILLED with the HOLY SPIRIT and later he said:

Lk 1:72-73 ‘To perform the mercy promised to OUR FATHERS, and to remember his holy covenant. The oath which he sware to OUR FATHER Abraham.

(b) Acts 7: 55 referred to St. Stephen as ‘full of the Holy Spirit’ and yet he called people in that same chapter ‘FATHER’ a record of 18 times. If calling people ‘father’ is wrong it presupposed that the Paraclete misled the proto-martyr.

(c) Since the Letter to the Hebrews bear no human authorship the full responsibility goes to the Holy Spirit who inspired it.

Heb 1:1 God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the FATHERS by the prophets…

Heb 3:9 When your FATHERS tempted me, proved me, and saw my works for forty years.

Heb 7:3 [Melchizedek] Without FATHER, without mother…

Heb 7:10 For he [Levi] was yet in the loins of his FATHER, when Melchizedek met him [Abraham].

Heb 12:7 …for what son is he whom the FATHER chasteneth not?

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had FATHERS of our flesh which corrected us…

4. JACOB IS GUILTY

Gen 28:21 So that I come again to my FATHER’s house in peace… [KJV]

Gen 49:2, 4, 25, 28 Jacob spoke the word ‘father’ or ‘fathers’ for people 5 times.

5. JOSEPH THE DREAMER IS ALSO GUILTY

Gen 50:5 My FATHER made me swear…Now therefore let me go, I pray thee [pharaoh], and bury my FATHER…

6. THE BENEVOLENT PHARAOH [Master of Joseph the Dreamer] IS GUILTY

Gen 50:6 And Pharaoh said, Go up, and bury thy FATHER…

7. MOSES IS GUILTY

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his FATHER and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife…[Moses, by tradition, is the human author of the book of Genesis] See also Gen 4: 20-21/ 9: 18, 22-23/ 50: 1, 8, 14-15, 22.

Dt 4:1 …go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your FATHERS giveth you.

Dt 5:3 The Lord made not this covenant with OUR FATHERS, but with us…

Dt 8:1 …and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your FATHERS.

See also Dt 6: 3, 10, 18, 23/ 7: 8, 12-13/ 8: 3/ 10: 11, 15/ 33: 9

8. JOSHUA IS GUILTY



Josh 24: 2-3, 6, 14-15, 17 He called people ‘fathers’ six times.

9. KING DAVID IS GUILTY

1 Sam 24:11 Moreover, my FATHER [he was talking to King Saul], see, yea, see the skirt of thy robe in my hand… Jewish Tradition ascribed the Book of Psalms to King David then this statement could be attributed to him under Divine Inspiration: (a) Ps 22:4 (b) Ps 27:10 (c) Ps 44:1 (d) Ps 45:10,16 (e) Ps 49:19 (f) Ps 68:5 (g) Ps 78:3,5,12,57 (h) Ps 95:9 (i) Ps 103:13 (j) Ps 106:6-7 (k) Ps 110:9,14

10. KING SOLOMON IS GUILTY

2 Chron 6:4,7-8,10,15-16 Solomon delivered this ‘sacrilegious’ speech during the completion of the Temple. Imagine he called David ‘my father’ 6 times. 2 Chron 6:25,31,38 Solomon called other people ‘fathers’ 3 times. N.B.: In 2 Chron 7:1 the Sacred Scripture states that Yahweh responded with FIRE FROM HEAVEN , but not out of anger in order to kill Solomon for calling people ‘father’ right inside the sacred Temple. Instead, the fire consumed the offerings as a sign of divine acceptance. Moreover, the glory of the Lord (Shekinah) filled the house. If Solomon committed a sin against the Holy Name of Yahweh by calling others as ‘father’ why did God accept his sacrifice? See Prov 1: 8/ 4: 1,3/ 13:1/ 17:6,21/ 19:13-14,26

11. KING JOSHAPAT IS GUILTY

2 Chron 19:8 Moreover in Jerusalem did Jehoshapat set of the Levites, and of the priests, and of the chief of the FATHERS of Israel…

12. THE PROPHET ELISHA IS GUILTY

2 Kgs 2:12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My FATHER, My FATHER [referring to the prophet Elijah], the chariot of Israel… [It means that a Man of God can be referred to as 'Father'].

13. THE PROPHET ISAIAH IS GUILTY

Is 49:23 And kings shall be thy nursing FATHERS…

14. THE PROPHET JEREMIAH IS GUILTY

Jer 25:5 …Turn ye again now every one from his evil ways…that the Lord hath given unto you and to your FATHERS forever and ever.

15. JOB IS GUILTY

Job 29:16 I was a FATHER to the poor: and the cause which I knew not I searched out.

16. THE PROPHET NEHEMIAH IS GUILTY

Neh 9:2,9,32,34 Nehemiah called people ‘father’ 4 times.

17. THE PROPHET DANIEL IS GUILTY

Dan 9:8 O Lord, to us belonged confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to OUR FATHERS…

Dan 9:16 …for our sins, and for the iniquities of OUR FATHERS…

18. THE ANGEL OF THE LORD IS GUILTY

Jgs 6: 13,15, 25,27 Speaking to Gideon, the Angel of the Lord called people ‘father’ 5 times.

19. THE PROPHET MALACHI IS GUILTY

Mal 3:7 Even from the days of your FATHERS…

Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the FATHERS to their children, and the heart of the children to their FATHERS.

20. MARY IS GUILTY TOO

Lk 1:55 As he spoke to our FATHERS, to Abraham, and to his seed forever. [KJV]

21. ST. PETER IS GUILTY ALSO

Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our FATHERS… (Peter’s speech at the Temple Gate). v. 22 For Moses truly said unto the FATHERS…v.25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with OUR FATHERS…

Acts 5:30 The God of OUR FATHERS raised up Jesus…

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither OUR FATHERS nor we were able to bear?

1 Pet 1:18 …ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your FATHERS.

2 Pt 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For since the FATHERS fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

22. ST. PAUL IS GUILTY

Acts 13:17 The God of this people of Israel chose OUR FATHERS…

Acts 13:32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto THE FATHERS…

Acts 13:36 For David…was laid unto his FATHERS, and saw corruption.

Acts 22:1 Men, brethren and FATHERS, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.

Acts 22:3 I am verily a man which am a Jew…and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the FATHERS…

Acts 26:6 And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto OUR FATHERS.

Acts 28:17 …Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of OUR FATHERS…

Acts 28:25 …Well spake the Holy Ghost by Isaiah the prophet unto OUR FATHERS…

Rom 4:1,12,16 & 18 In these passages St. Paul called Abraham ‘father’ 4 times.

Rom 9:5 Whose are the FATHERS, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 9:10 …but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by OUR FATHER Isaac.

1 Cor 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all OUR FATHERS were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea.

Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews’ religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my FATHERS.

Efeso 3:14-15 Dahil dito, ako’y naninikluhod sa Ama, na siyang pinagtutularan ng PAGKAAMA sa bawat sambahayan sa langit at sa lupa. [Magandang Balita Biblia]

Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his FATHER…

Col 3:21 FATHERS, provoke not your children to anger…

1 Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man…for murderers of FATHERS…

23. ST. MATTHEW IS GUILTY

Mt 1:2-16 The Genealogy (FATHER is used 39 times in NIV, NRSV, NLT, Magandang Balita Biblia, NAB and The Jerusalem Bible).

Mt 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his FATHER Herod…

Mt 4:21-22 …James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, in a ship with Zebedee their FATHER…And they immediately left the ship and their FATHER…

24. ST. MARK IS GUILTY

Mk 15:21 And they compel one Simon a Cyrenean, who passed by, coming out of the country, THE FATHER of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.

25. ST. LUKE IS GUILTY

Lk 1:59 And they named him Zacharias, after the name of his FATHER.

Lk 1:62 And they made signs to his FATHER…

Lk 1:67 And his FATHER Zechariah was filled with the Holy Ghost…

Acts 16:1,3 …Timothy, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his FATHER was a Greek… for they knew all that his FATHER was a Greek.

Acts 28:8 And it came to pass, that the FATHER of Publius lay sick…

26. ST. JOHN IS GUILTY

Jn 4:53 So, the FATHER knew that it was at the same hour…

1 Jn 2:13-14 I write unto you, FATHERS, because ye have known him that is from the beginning… I have written unto you, FATHERS…

27. THE ARCHANGEL GABRIEL IS GUILTY

Lk 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the FATHERS to the children…

28. ST. STEPHEN IS GUILTY

Acts 7 He called peoples FATHER 18 times.

29. ZECHARIAH [The Father of John the Baptist] IS GUILTY

Lk 1:72-73 ‘To perform the mercy promised to OUR FATHERS, and to remember his holy covenant. The oath which he sware to OUR FATHER Abraham.

30. THE SAMARITAN WOMAN IS GUILTY

Jn 4:20 OUR FATHERS worshipped in this mountain…

31. ANANIAS [the man sent by God to baptized Paul] IS GUILTY

Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of OUR FATHERS… • Catholic Christians call the priests “father” with the sense understood by St. Paul. 1 Cor 4:14–16 I am writing you this not to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet YOU DO NOT HAVE MANY FATHERS, for I became your FATHER in Christ Jesus through the gospel. Therefore, I urge you, be imitators of me. [NAB]

1 Cor 4:14–16 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a FATHER doth his children…

1 Tim 5:1 Rebuke not an elder (Presbuteros, Priest), but entreat him as a FATHER… Phil 2:22 But ye know the proof of him, that, as a son with the FATHER, he [Timothy] hath served with me in the gospel.

ON CALLING THE POPE ‘HOLY FATHER’

Is 22:21,23-24 …he [Eliakim, the keeper of the key] shall be a FATHER to the inhabitants of Jerusalem…and he shall be for a glorious throne to his FATHER’s house…And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his FATHER’s house.

Bear in mind that The Book of Isaiah is a prophetic book. It is particularly a prophesy concerning the coming of the Messiah and His Kingdom. The above chapter (Is 22) if will be read completely will lead us to Mt 16: 18-19.

Like Eliakim, St. Peter received from Jesus the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, thus making him the Prime Minister of the Kingdom with the power to bind and to loose above any other with the exception of the King Himself.

One of the title given to the Holder of the Keys is that he shall be called FATHER. The Pope, as successor of Peter, is called HOLY FATHER... With the adjective ‘Holy’ because he is the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Heaven not just of the Davidic kingdom.

BASED ON THE NUMEROUS PASSAGES PRESENTED ABOVE THESE CLASSES OF PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED ‘FATHER’:

• Biological Father • Patriarchs • Ancestors • Kings (as David did to Saul, 1 Sam 24:11, Isaiah 49:23) • Government Leaders (e.g., Eliakim, the Royal Steward – Is 22: 21, 23-24) • PETER & his SUCCESSORS (The Keeper of the Keys) Mt16: 18-19 & Is 22: 21, 23-24 • APOSTLES & BISHOPS (1 Cor 4:14–16/ 1 Cor 4:14–16/ Phil 2:22) • PRESBYTERS AND PRIESTS (Judges 17:9-10/ 1 Tim 5:1)

N.B. The Catholic word ‘priest’ was a shortened version of the Presbyter. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary provides the etymology [ME preist, fr. OE preost, ultim. fr. LL presbyter elder, priest, fr. Gk presbyteros, fr. compar. of presbys old man, elder].

WELL, WELL, WELL! THE BIBLE IS VERY CATHOLIC, ISN’T IT? BECAUSE IT IS A CATHOLIC BOOK! IF YOU WILL FOLLOW THE PROTESTANT AND BORN-AGAIN INTERPRETATION THE SACRED SCRIPTURES THEMSELVES SHALL LOOSE THEIR DIVINE INSPIRATION. SIMPLY STATED THEIR POSITION IS ABSURD, ILLOGICAL AND UNBIBLICAL!


Source: The Splendor Of the Church

Saturday, January 9, 2010

Eliseo F. Soriano EXPOSED

Eliseo F. Soriano EXPOSED!

By David J. Stewart

Eliseo F. Soriano is a false prophet, who teaches damnable heresies. Beware of this imposter!

Eliseo Fernando Soriano (born April 4, 1947), a controversial Filipino evangelist, is presiding minister of the Philippines-based Members Church of God International. He is known as Bro. Eli in the Congregation he leads, and through his radio and television programs Ang Dating Daan (The Old Path), Ask Soriano, Bible Guide and Truth in Focus. Soriano is known for criticizing various other religious groups for doctrines and practices he considers to be against biblical truths. —SOURCE

Soriano Perverts The Gospel

The following information is from Soriano's church website. My comments will appear in bold white type...

The Bible teaches only one church that each of us must join, for us to be saved by Jesus Christ. In fact, the Church in the Bible will become "God" instrument in making the Gentiles heirs to the promise of eternal life.

This is a lie of the Devil. We don't have to join any visible church organization to be saved. Salvation is by faith alone in the Person of Jesus Christ (Romans 10:13).

...Our Lord Jesus Christ will bring two kinds of salvation, through the Bible. At the time He assumed human form, He saved Israel from its sinfulness. That is written in Matthew 1:21, which says—“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”

However, when He comes again, for the second time, He will bring salvation to the faithful. And, the Bible is teaching us how we can become one among those people that our Lord Jesus Christ will save come judgment day. The first verse that we have to pay attention to is Ephesians 3:6, which says— “That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the Gospel.”

Again, this is a lie of the Devil. There are NOT "two kinds of salvation." Jesus plainly stated in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father, but by me." Soriano is a false prophet! Soriano teaches that Jesus came 2,000 years ago only to save Israel; but the faithful today will be saved at The Second Coming. Soriano tells lies! There is only one plan of salvation, and that is by faith through grace (Ephesians 2:8,9). Soriano teaches a works-based salvation, where a person must be "faithful" to his religious organization to be saved. Sadly, he is brainwashing many thousands of people, and leading them into Hellfire!

...According to St. Paul, for the Gentiles to be a part of the salvation that comes from our Lord Jesus Christ, they have to be made parts first of the body; and only after that will they become partakers of a promise in Christ by the Gospel.

Eli Soriano is a heretic, who teaches that faith alone in Jesus Christ is insufficient to save. Soriano teaches the heresy that a lost sinner must FIRST join the church before he or she can receive Christ as Savior. The Word of God teaches the exact opposite. Scripturally, the very moment you trust Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, you become a member of the Church, i.e. the Body of Christ. Soriano is a quack.

SOURCE: Church Of God International Biblical Topics


Soriano Denies the Deity of Jesus Christ!

Just as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Soriano teaches the damnable heresy that Jesus is a "Mighty God"; but not Almighty God. Here is what Soriano teaches...

"The Jesus and Christ of the Bible is not God the Father"

SOURCE: Ang Dating Daan Biblical Topics

Blasphemy! The Word of God is abundantly clear that the Godhead became incarnate in the earthly body of the Lord Jesus Christ. We read in Colossians 2:9, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Soriano corrupts the Scriptures through his woeful ignorance. We also read in John 10:33, "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, MAKEST THYSELF GOD." Who would dare say that Jesus didn't profess to be Almighty God. In Revelation 1:8 Jesus even claims to be GOD ALMIGHTY, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY." Oh, listen my friend, Jesus accepted worship as only God is entitled to (Matthew 8:2; Isaiah 42:8). Jesus forgave sin as only God is able to do (Mark 2:5-7; Luke 5:21).

Jesus performed miracles, like healing amputees, which no man has ever done, "If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father" (John 15:24). These frauds today like Benny Hinn and Pat Robertson cannot heal anyone; yet they make tens-of-millions of dollars by exploiting people's hopes of being healed from their illnesses and disabilities.

Likewise, Soriano is exploiting Christianity, twisting the Scriptures into lies, to make money and benefit himself. Eliseo F. Soriano and The Church of God International are a Satanic cult! DANGER!

Sharing my Experience ni BALIK KATOLIKO.

Ako poy dating katoliko na naanib sa samahan na Iglesia ng Dios or sikat sa pangalang Ang Dating Daan ni Ginoong Eliseo “Bro. Eli” Soriano. Naanib ako sa grupong ito, ito lang first part ng year 2009. Ngunit sa kulang kulang anim na buwang membership ko ay nag desisyon na akong “tumiwalag” sa grupong ito sa kadahilanang hindi ko na kayang sikmurain ang napakaraming abuluyan at tulungan (daw) ng grupong ito. Ito ang listahan at gusto kong e share sa inyong mga hindi kaanib ng Iglesiang ito at doon sa mga nagpapadoktrina at nakikinig palang sa ADD.

1. Abuluyan sa Regular Pagsamba
2. Tulungan sa Regular Prayer Meeting
3. Abuluyan sa Regular na Pasalamat
4. Kapag magpapasalamat ang isang indibidwal, may tinatawag na gugol
5. Kapag magpapasalamat ang isang indibidwal, may tinatawag na hain
5. Hain sa Pasalamat ng kapatiran (PBK)
6. Gugol sa Pasalamat ng kapatiran (PBK)
7. Hain sa Pasalamat ng kapatiran, midyear (PBK)
8. Gugol sa Pasalamat ng kapatiran, midear (PBK)
9. Local Fund (Expenses ng Locale)
10. Ambagan para sa bayad sa koryente sa local (Kasama sa LF)
11. Ambagan para sa bayad sa tubig sa local (Kasama sa LF)
12. Ambagan para sa bayad sa telepono / internet sa local (Kasama sa LF)
13. Ambagan para sa Bible Exposition
14. Ambagan sa Indoctrination
15. Global Evangelization (GE) – Para daw sa Gawain ni Mr. Soriano sa kanyang location sa Brazil at south amerika.
16. Hain sa Pasalamat ng lokal
17. Gugol sa Pasalamat ng lokal
18. Hain sa Pasalamat ng Debisyon
19. Gugol sa Pasalamat ng Debisyon
20. Kapag nagme-meeting ang mga Officer, meron silang tinatawag na "Biglaan" or “Emergency”, yun bang kahit magkano lang anya, tulong daw sa Gawain ni Mr. Soriano.
22. Pag Birthday ni Mr. Soriano merong ambagan para pang regalo sa kanya.
23. Ambagan para sa pagpapakain sa mga dino-doctrinahan at sa mga nag-aattend ng Bible Exposition.
24. Pledges. May mga miembro na malalaki ang sweldo na kinakausap ng mga worker para magbigay ng abuloy or Gugol na malaki sa Pasalamat (Regular or yung sa PBK).
25. Pag dumalaw yung MIC sa locale asahan mong mayroong siyang tinatawag na “lambing” sa mga miembro at syempre ano pa e di pera din ang hinihingi nya. It’s either in fixed amount or kung ano lang kaya mong ibigay.
26. May tinatawag na “tulungan” daw sa project. Depende kung anong project yun. Halimbawa doon sa nakaraang movie showing ni Mr. Razon (Kuya). Nagbibigay ang worker ng “target collection” sa per group at ang group servant ang nagkokolekta ng pera sa mga miembro. Minsan kukunin nila ang mga pledges (kung ano lang kaya) per member, pero hindi rin nasusunod yun dahil yung ibibigay na ticket ng group servant sa iyo e di hamak na mas mataas ang halaga kaysa doon sa pinangako mo sa kanya. Sasabihin nalang nya sa iyo e pasensya dahil malawak daw kasi ang Gawain ni Mr. Soriano at Mr. Razon.
27. Ambagan para sa Maintenance ng Locale.
28. Ambagan sa pagpapakain ng mga kapatid tuwing pasalamat sa Dios, dito kasi sa locale namin may isang group ang naka toka sa pagluluto at pagpapakain every week at syempre ang mga miembro ng grupo ay may ambagan na kulang kulang 400 pesos for each member.
29. Dito sa locale namin mayroong Van na ginagamit sa pagsusundo ng mga kapatid tuwing may pagtitipon. Pag nasira yung Van syempre ano pa e di may ambagan para sa pagbili ng nga kailangang spare part or piyesa ng sasakyan. He he minsan pa nga kung nagkamali sa nabiling piyesa (dahil hindi pala yun ang talagang kailangang piyesa) syempre ano pa e di ambagan ulit.
30. Ambagan sa pag renta ng sasakyan or coaster kung pupunta sa kabilang ibayo para dumalo. Kung may schedule na pagtitipon sa kabilang city or province at kailangan mag renta ng sasakyan para sa pag transport ng mga kapatid.
31. Ambagan sa pagbayad ng renta sa Straha. Pag may mararaming kapatid na magpapasalamat at may mga miembro na mangagaling sa ibang probinsiya or city e nagrerenta ng straha ang worker / DS para maisama sila sa pagtitipon dahil siguradong masikip sa rentang locale.



Ang dami po di ba? Crying or Very Sad Mad dito lang po yan sa location ko at hindi ko alam ang nangyayari sa isang locale sa pilipinas or maging sa ibang lugar sa mundo. Mayroon pang iba pero nakalimutan ko na. Isang dahilan palang po yan kaya ako umalis sa ADD. Eto pa Mananawagan pa nga yung worker na magbigay ka ng mas malaki kaysa sa perang ibibigay or ipapadala mo sa family mo dahil sa marami daw ang Gawain at dito naman daw ito mapupunta daw. Ang isang nakakainis sa daming abuluyan at so called tulungan e wala naman silang pinapakitang mga report sa mga kapatid sa tuwing may pagtitipon. Ano yung mga report na yun??

Magkano ang nakokolekta per group para sa Gawain
Magkano ang nakokolekta per group para sa expenses ng locale.
Magkano ang total nakokolekta para sa Gawain
Magkano ang total nakokolekta para sa expenses ng locale.
Magkano ang na remit kay Mr. Soriano at Mr. Razon.
Magkano ang nakokolekta per group para sa so called project
Magkano ang total nakokolekta para sa so called project

It can be monthly, quarterly or even yearly.

PERO wala silang pinapakitang data na ganito kaya walang kasiguraduhan na ang collection ay malinis at walang napupunta sa ibang bulsa since maraming kamay ang humahawak nito. At isa pa minsan magpaparinig pa yung group servant mo na ang group mo daw ang pinaka kolelat sa collection ng pera at minsan yung worker naman sasabihin na kolelat ang locale in terms of amount ng koleksyon.

Tsk! Tsk! Matindi po di ba?? kaya po sa mga recently lang naanib sa ADD e mag-isip isip po tayo mga kapatid at maging doon sa mga nakikinig palang at nagpapadoktrina. Kaya nyo po ba ang ganitong klasing abuluyan and so called tulungan?? Doon po sa nagpapadoktrina or dumadalo ng exposition or bible study palang maaring maganda ang treatment o pakikisama nila sa inyo ngayon, pero lahat yan ay magbabago once na umanib na kayo sa kanila. Siguradong LIMAS ang laman ng wallet mo at savings mo.

Siguradong aakusahan nila ako na miembro na ako ng INC well. Sorry pero nagkakamali kayong mga loyalist ni Mr. Soriano. Hindi ako umanib sa INC dahil madami ding abuluyan doon. Sa ngayon "freelance" na ako at nagsisikap sa hanap buhay.

Papa vs Mama Eli Soriano




PAPA vs MAMA

PAPA : IMPORTED
MAMA: lokal

PAPA: binata
MAMA: dalaga pa daw

PAPA: GERMAN SHEPERD
MAMA: asong kalye

PAPA: INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITY
MAMA: INTERNATIONAL FUGITIVE

PAPA: highly educated, with various doctorate degrees
MAMA: high school only, did not pinis 3rd year high

PAPA: well known
MAMA: wanted by the police

PAPA: popular with the crowd
MAMA: avoids the crowd , NBI, POLICE AND INTERPOL

PAPA: PROFESSOR/teacher GERMANY's TOP UNIVERSITY-MANGANGARAL
MAMA: MANANANGGAL

PAPA: favorite drink- MOMPO-red wine
MAMA: coke in bottle with STRAW!!

PAPA: VERY POOR NO ASSESTS
MAMA; VERY RICH, PIGGERY, LUMPIA FACTORY,beach resort, WATER
STATION, SPACE STATION ,GAS STATION, and ELISORIA MALL
ETC ETC

PAPA: favorite musical instrument- GRAND PIANO
MAMA : "organ"

PAPA: TALENT- class A CONCERT PIANIST
MAMA: singer: favorite "paper roses" "I want you to know i'm a
MAN"

PAPA: OTHER TALENT- writer par execellance
MAMA: salamankero, and story telling par execellance

PAPA: sports- once a footballer
MAMA: PINAKAMALAYONG DURA- WORLD GUINESS HOLDER - 10 MTRS.

PAPA: HEAD OF STATE
MAMA: no state- tago ng tago

PAPA: FAVORITE PAST TIME- PLAY THE PIANO-MOZART AND BACH
MAMA: cross stich, cooking, DRESS MAKING (ME PAGAWAAN NG PANTY)

PAPA: RATED AS : GENIUS
MAMA: NOT AVAILABLE - NEVER MIND

PAPA: WILL DIE FOR HIS FLOCK
MAMA: HIS FLOCK WILL DIE

PAPA: eku tatakut keng leon keng tigre
MAMA: pulis??!! haaaaaaaaaay itago nyo ko DALIIIIIIII !!

PAPA: WE MUST FORGIVE OUR ENEMIES AND LOVE THEM
MAMA: MGA GAGOOOO MGA BOBOOOO AT TARANTADOOOO SILA!!!

PAPA: LOVE YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER
MAMA: kung adik adik ang tatay ninyo kumuha kayo ng dos por dos
at hambalusin ninyo ang tatay ninyo pag hindi nadala yan!!!
ngeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

soriano- hindi ba dapat ipagdasal natin siya ayon sa
ebangelyo?

SI ELI SORIANO BA AY NABINYAGAN SA ITINAYO NIYANG KULTO NIYA??


ANG SAGOT PO DITO SA KATANUNGAN ITO AY WALANG MALIWANAG

ANG CLAIM NG ADD SI ELI DAW AY NA BAUTISMUHAN SA IGLESIA

NI PEREZ- ANG IGLESIYA NG DIYOS ANG HALIGI AT SUHAY NG

KATOTOHANAN-

SI PEREZ PO AY ISA DATING TIWALAG SA IGLESIYA NI CRISTO (MANALO)

AT NA INDOKTRINAHAN SIYA DITO BILANG ISANG INC AT NABAUTISMOHAN

SIYA DITO-

SINO NGAYONG ANG NAGBAUTISMO SA KANYA SA IGLESYA NA TINAYO NIYA

BILANG ISANG NAGTAYO NG ISANG BAGONG TUNAY DAW NA IGLESYA


ANG HALIGI AT SUHAY NG KATOTOHANAN

GANUN DIN NAMAN KAY FELIX MANALO SINO ANG NAGBAUTISMO SA KANYA

SA ITINAYO NIYA AT IPINANGALANG IGLESYA NI CRISTO

SI FELIX MANALO NAMAN AY ISANG BINYAGANG KATOLIKO NUNG SANGGOL

PA SIYA SA SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO


SIGE PO ANG PAKSA NATIN DITO AY KUNG SI ELI AY BINYAGAN SA

IGLESYA NIYA???


DAHIL ANG CLAIM NIYA SIYA AY UMANIB SA IGLESYA NG BIBLIA

SINO NGAYON SA IGLESIYA NG BIBLIA ANG NAG BINYAG SA KANYA

MERON NA PONG SUMAGOT AT HINDI DAY NIYA ALAM- ISA SIYANG ADD

SI ANDRESS

SI ELI PO AY ISANG MATANDA NA OR ADULT NUNG SIGURO NABINYAGAN

SIYA NG IGLESYA NG BIBLIA NA INANIBAN NIYA- PERO HINDI DAW NILA

ALAM KUNG SINO SA IGLESYA NG BIBLIA-


KAHIT NA ADDRESS NA LANG ANG TINATANONG KO KUNG NASAAN ITONG

IGLESYA NA ITO AT AKO NA ANG MAGTATANONG KUNG SINO ANG

NAGBINYAG KAY ELI FOR VERIFICATION LANG PO-

TO SEE IS TO BELIEVE-