Thursday, January 14, 2010

Is Christ A Man Or God?


TIGNAN NATIN KUNG ANONG KLASENG THEOLOGY ANG ITINURO NI INGKONG SA MGA NALOKO NIYA.

ITO ANG SABI NG NG KANYANG MEMBER NA SI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ. BASAHIN PO NATIN.

Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.A person who denies this is a liar to himself, 1 John 2:22-23 and is an antichrist.For those who doubt this, please allow an understanding I learned from my preachers, Brother Eli and Brother Daniel.Christ existed with God the Father even before there was time.He spoke of this in Proverbs 8:22-31 as the Wisdom of God. Now to further prove it, 1 Corinthians 1:24 says Christ is the power and the wisdom of God.This person who is speaking is the Wisdom of God, who is also Christ, said in verse 22 " The Lord(God the Father) possessed me(Christ) in the beginning of His way, BEFORE HIS WORKS OF OLD( Nothing was there except the 2 of them, The Father and the Son). Truly a person to be present with God the Father whenever it was, can only be a person like Himself, a God.

I'm sorry.But from what I've learned, you will not find a verse in the Bible that Jesus Christ is true God AND TRUE MAN. What you will find is, the Lord Jesus Christ is a true God who came in the flesh and coming IN the flesh does not mean that HE is flesh like man. A simple logic, When you come to a place using a car, you came there IN the car, you are not the car. I'm sorry, I understand you, I was once a catholic and believed what you believe about Christ. But I thank God for opening my understanding to His teachings through the preachings of Bro. Eli Soriano and Bro. Daniel Razon. I was once blind but now I can see!

I thank God for giving me the chance to see what I formerly don't see, to know the truth from lies but most importantly to be able to live the rest of my life in His service. People around the world are still seeking for the answers to the questions, " What is the meaning of life or essence of living in this world? What is my purpose? Where am I heading and what is the end? What lies ahead of my journey, what am I destined to be?Etc...?" God gave me the answers to these questions through the preachings of Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon. And knowing the answer to these questions people of all walks of life were striving to know, are, I would say, gifts from God that should be lived and kept in faith.
We in the Church of God are blessed to have the only God-send preachers in this time. To learn from their teachings, whether by their lectures or the examples of their lives. I can confidently,contently, and faithfully say that every detail in the lives of Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon is part of God's teachings of the Gospel, nothing goes to waste. Even when at times they don't speak, just by mere looking at their works, God is still teaching us of goodness, holiness and righteousness,may not be written literally in the Bible, but is through the working of the Holy Spirit Who dwells in them. The work of God's Spirit in them is without measure.

I'm sorry to say this but you are wrong. You used John 1:14 wrongly. If I will follow your logic here, you said, "here in this verse the God became flesh!!and human has flesh.. so therefore Jesus is Human also.." it will be misleading. Why? because based on your claim that human HAS flesh and God became flesh, it will led to the conclusion that God is human? I'm sorry, but your logic is wrong. Not all logic is logical, I learned from my preachers that illogical logic is called fallacy. Claiming that the Lord Jesus Christ is God and also human is wrong. John 1:14 said that the WORD became flesh...I would like to share what Brother Eli said once, "Being able to read a verse should not lead you to the conclusion that it is the content of the whole Bible, it's just a verse and not the whole Bible." Seeing the tip of an iceberg from afar doesn't mean that what you saw is the actual size of the iceberg, it's a lot bigger at the bottom.
My point is not because you read John 1:14, doesn't mean that what you think is the actual truth of it. Actually, based on the wordings you used, my answer is there, "And the Word BECAME flesh..." So the Word is not flesh, He just BECAME flesh. The original greek word for this is GINOMAI which means to cause to be or to become. When you say "to cause to be" it means CHANGE. I hope you understand that. When the Word became flesh, the Word underwent change to be in the flesh but not that He is flesh. Why does this have to be necessary? Based on what I've learned from my preachers, Christ has to undergo change for the flesh body to contain Him. Remember, Christ is also a God and being in that nature, He is far glorious than all creations. And He used that flesh body as a vehicle or vessel to teach man and to save us from our sins.
I'm not saying that you can just rely on my answer. NO! I'm just a worthless member in the Church of God who is sharing to you sincerely what I learned from my preachers. Brother Eli and Brother Daniel are the best persons to ask your questions because they are the messengers of God. I'm just a nobody.

I'm sorry Kuroro, I'm not in the position to discuss with you.Just like what I said awhile ago, I'm just a member in the Church of God, a nobody. I'm not a malapert kind of person. It's useless to discuss or share the gospel to people who are not looking for answers for the reason of the hope that is in the Church of God. I noticed that you are just asking for useless talk, I'm sorry but I have no time for that. I sense that whatever verse or information we share to you, you will just insist your own so called "theology".
In situations such as this, God commanded us, " But shun profane babblings: for they will proceed further in ungodliness, and their word will eat as doth a gangrene:" and " But foolish and ignorant questionings refuse, knowing that they gender strifes." 1 Timothy 2:16-17, 23.
Our God is commanding us to refuse foolish and ignorant questionings, like yours. If you want a debate or discussion, tell your pastor, preist or whatever you call your religious leaders to challenge our preacher in the Church of God, Brother Eli Soriano. I'm sorry if they will just disappoint you, they will not and will never come out to defend your faith.

I'm so sorry again Kuroro, please let me correct the verse I gave you. It's from 2 Timothy 2:16-17,23. May I site again a verse that is not far from the previous verses. Please look at 2 Timothy 2:14, " Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them in the sight of the Lord, that they strive not about words, to no profit, to the subverting of them that hear."
The intent of not involving ourselves to foolish and ignorant questionings that lead to strife is for the benefit of those that hear, not to be the cause of their downfall. And also it's for our benefit in the Church of God, in that by not involving ourselves to such, we will not err from the truth and will also not cause the overthrow of the faith of some of our members. It's in 2 Timothy 2:17-18, " and their word will eat as doth a gangrene: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; men who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some." With God's help and guidance, I will not intend and follow in the examples of these evil people, Hymenaeus and Philetus.
I hope you understand. If you are asking for reason or righteousness, or the hope that we have in the Church of God, I will gladly spare some of my time and share what I've learned from my preachers, Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon.

TEEWEE'S ANSWER:

michael you have no argument whatsoever-
you are just beating around the bush and citing eli soriano-

WHERE IS THE BEEF OF YOUR ARGUMENT? you cited a long one

but what is your point-?

You analogy is even very poor - Jesus did not come LIKE A CAR
If jesus did not come int the flesh the crucifixion is just a big moro moro thing

JESUS WAS NOT HURT IN FACT HE WAS TICKLED- BECAUSE YOU WILL NOW BE
SAYING HE IS GOD AND CAN ISOLATE THE PAIN- THEN YOU ARE AN ANTICHIRST

1 JOHN 4:2 how will you recognize the spirit of God? ANY SPIRIT RECOGNIZING JESUS AS THE CHRIST WHO HAS TAKEN OUR FLESH IS OF GOD.

YOUR ANALOGY OF YOU RIDING THE CAR IS ABSURD- AND HORRIBLE
WHEN THE CARS MOTOR FAILS TO RUN- DO YOU ALSO SAY YOU CAN NOT WALK- NO YOU GET OUT OF IT AND ASK FOR A MECHANIC OR HAVE IT TOWED- ANG LAYO PARE KO- ANO BA YAN

TAKEN OUR FLESH- read the gospel of JOHN THE VERSE WAS GIVEN ALREADY
READ JOHN 1:1-18 - he has taken our flesh and lived with us-
Like a natural man- who gets hurt , sweats and cries- and bleeds

or ELSE THE CRUCIFIXION WILL BE THE GREATEST MOCKERY THAT GOD
HAS EVEN DONE TO HIS PEOPLE- MORO MORO LANG YAN- OR DRAMA

THE COVENANT HAS TO BE SEALED BY BLOOD- AND ALL COVENANTS WERE
HEALED BY THE BLOOD OF ANIMALS-

SINCE JESUS WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE LAST AND EVERLASTING
COVENANT WHICH WAS THE GOSPEL- DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING

HE SEALED IT HIMSELF BY HIS BLOOD- THE LAMB WHO WILL TAKE AWAY
THE SINS OF THE WORLD- AND NO OTHER COVENANT FOLLOWS-

NO MORE PROPHETS NO MORE ANGELS AND NO MORE APOSTLES THAT WILL COME- TO TEACH ANOTHER KIND OF GOSPEL- ONLY THE ONE THAT HE LAID

READ 1 COR 3:10-15- THE FOUNDATION LAID BY CHRIST AND NO ONE SHOULD LAY ANOTHER


AND LUKE 16:16 no more prophets and no more mosaic law

IN FACT IT IS YOU WHO MUST BE AVOIDED- YOU ARE GIVING STUPID

REASONS AND THE VERSE THAT YOU GAVE ON 2 TIMOTHY IT IS ABOUT

USELESS CONVERSATIONS- AND YOU JUST STARTED ONE STUPID CONVERSATION

THE ISSUE WAS ABOUT CHRIST AS MAN A NATURAL MAN TOO-
AND NOT JUST A BODY THAT HE WORE-

HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE VIRGIN MARY - AND GREW UP JUST LIKE
YOU AND ME-

HE HAD TWO INSEPARABLE NATURES -ONE OF MAN AND GOD-

EPH- "HE SHED HIS DIVINITY AND TOOK THE FORM OF SERVANT"pHIL 2:6-8

IF JESUS WERE NOT TRULY MAN - HE SHOULD HAVE SHED THAT BODY WHEN
HE WENT TO HEAVEN

IT IS LIKE YOU RIDING THE CAR AGAIN- THE JESUS SHOULD HAVE PARKED
THE CAR LEFT IT ANG WENT TO HEAVEN- NOW WHAT WILL YOU SEE
WHEN HIS SPIRIT IS INVISIBLE- YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION

HE IS TRULY GOD AND TRULY HUMAN

FOOLISH CONVERSATION? or are you used up na?

PROVING JESUS TO BE A MAN IS NOT A FOOLISH CONVERSATION-

IN FACT IT IS IN THE BIBLE- 1 JOHN 4:2

AND HOW MANY TIMES DID HE SAY THAT HE IS THE SON OF MAN TOO

i thinks it is a heresy the one of NESTORIUS- or the NESTORIAN HERESY

THAT YOU ARE TEACHING- TALO NA YAN

IN FACT THE JEWS BELIEVED THAT HE IS ONLY A MAN- AND THE SON
OF A CARPENTER AND BORN OF A WOMAN NAMED MARY-

BUT HE WAS ASKED THIS QUESTION-

"SO YOU ARE THE CHRIST THE SON OF GOD?"- AND HE SAID
YES YOU ARE RIGHT I AM" JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED BECAUSE OF THIS
AND THE IGLESIA NI MANALO ARE UNHAPPY BECAUSE JESUS SAID
HE IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE JEWS ALSO KNOWS THAT SON OF GOD
IS GOD

ON THE OTHER HAND- HAD THE QUESTION BEEN

SO YOU ARE THE CHRIST THE SON OF MARY-?" JESUS WILL JUST REPLY
YES I AM- BECAUSE HE IS THE SON OF MARY- AND JESUS IS NOT A LIAR
AND HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SET FREE- NO MORE CRUCIFIXION AND SATAN
IS HAPPY.

AND THE INC OF MANALO WILL BE HAPPY TOO


BUT THE SANHEDRIN WANTED TO TRAP HIM- SO THEY ASKED OF HIS
DIVINITY- WHICH HE DID REPLY BY SAYING HE IS GOD

NOW MARY COULD HAVE RUN TO THE SANHEDRIN AND SAID TO THEM
BECAUSE CRUCIFIXION IS SUCH A HORRIBLE DEATH- IT IS DEATH BY
DROWNING WITHOUT WATER BECAUSE YOUR LUNGS ARE COMPRESSED

AND A MOTHER WILL LIE JUST EXTRICATE HIS SON FROM THE JAWS
OF DEATH-

BUT THE MOTHER KNOWS THE ROLE OF JESUS TO SAVE MAN FROM
HELL- THAT IS WHY THE CRUCIFIXION HAS TO TAKE PLACE-

IF I AM BLOTTED FROM THIS GROUP- "I LOVE YOU JESUS" IS THE GROUP
JUST MEET ME THERE

TAKOT YANG MGA KASAMA MO THEY HAVE ABANDONED ALL THEIR GROUPS
THAT WE KNOW


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego salamat po sa comment mo. Masasabi ko po, yung pong sinasabi mo ay interpretation lamang po ng mga pastor o ministro mong walang nalalamang anuman sa Panginoong Jusucristo. Sa nabasa ko po sa mga sinabi mo, hindi po katuwiran ang hinahanap mo kundi walang kabuluhang usapan na humahantong lamang po sa pagtatalo. I'm sorry, but what I said about Kuroro's intentions also applies to yours and my reply to him is the same with yours. Maintindihan mo man po o hindi, it's not my problem or obligation para magpaunawa sa mga tao pong hindi tatanggap ng paliwanag.
Hindi po ako narito para makipagtalo sa inyo ng mga kasama mo. I started with sharing light to the person who seems cannot understand what is being talked about and I stayed there. Then I noticed comments like yours na nag-aanyaya po ng pagtatalo, I'm very sorry. Kung gusto mo po ng diskusyon, kausapin mo po ang pastor mo na labanan ang kapatid na Eli sa diskusyon, sa TV, hindi po yung ikaw ang tatayo para sa kanya. Kung di ka naman po puno ng relehiyon, wala ka pong karapatan makipagtalo patungkol sa pananampalataya dahil TINUTURUAN KA LANG. Ang bagay na ito ay maluwag ko pong tanggap sa puso at sarili ko, ALAM KO PO KUNG SAAN AKO DAPAT LUMUGAR.

You sited 1 John 4:2, "This is how you can recognize God's Spirit: Every spirit who acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God."
Ang nakalagay po sa Bible, Jesus Christ has come IN THE FLESH hindi taken our flesh, ANG LAYO PARE MO. Kaya ka po naliligaw, gumagamit kayo ng translation na pabor lang po sa sarili nyong theology. Isa pa po, you are making me claim statements that you yourself said and I will never say. Sana po kung gusto mong mag-share at mag-dispute about what has been said, hwag mo po sanang i-dispute ang hindi naman po sinabi, at conlusion mo lang. Maniwala po kayo, kung sa totoong Korte po, talo ka po agad sa kaso dahil lalabas pong kasinungalingan ang inilalaban mo. I know this dahil po dito sa US, real court trials are being shown on TV at hindi man po kami experts, but we know the rules of argumentation. I'm sorry to say this pero honestly po, magulo po ang argumentation mo brother.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

BRO ANO PARATI KANG GANYAN PURO KWENTO LANG- HOW GOOD IS YOUR

INTERPRETATION - WHO AUTHORIZED YOU TO INTERPRET

TAKEN OUR FLESH- ANO BA YAN VERBAL ENGINEERIN NA BA YAN-

WHOSE FLESH DID HE TAKE-

DID HE NOT TAKE THE FLESH OF HIS MOTHER-

HE GREW INSIDE HIS MOTHERS WOMB

ABA ABOGADO KA BA?? sabihim mo nga kasi abogado ako

hiindi ka pala abogado - pagtatawanan ka lang ng huwes niyan

dishin out senseless ananlogies and interpretation-

tell me are you authorized to interpret- use the bible and tell me who are authorized-

akala mo magugulat mo ako

pastor ha- mga walang pinagaralan yan-

dun ka pumasok sa mga may pinagaraln

ilang versikulo lang eh akala mo me pinagaralan na

bro nambobola ka lang akala mo ba- natatawa ako sa mga pinagsasabi mo

this is an international forum- be careful of what you say

buti tinagalog mo- eh mapapahiya ka dian sa mga sinasabi mo-

ang haba haba ng mga sinasabi mo - walang laman

put beef in what you are sying ha

taken our flesh- became flesh- come into the flesh
are all the same in meaning- paiikutin mo pa ako

SIGE BABALIKAN KITA AT AYUSIN MO ANG SAGOT MO-

I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH SENSELESS STATEMENTS COMING FROM A PERSON

IT BOILS MY BLOOD- PLEASE DO NOT TREAT THE READERS AS IDIOTS-

IT VERY WELL GOES BACK TO YOU

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

brother, salamat po ulit sa comment mo. Pasensya ka na po, kahit naman po kasi kumulo ang dugo mo, the readers know what I'm trying to point out, ikaw lang ang di nakakaunawa kasi po di ka tumatanggap ng paliwanag. Malinaw po ang sinasabi ko and from what I know, a person who doesn't engage to useless talk such as what you are doing, is wiser than your kind. We members in the Church of God are not discussing to cause trouble or stir the faith of our fellow members but just to share sincerely the hope that is in us, only when asked.
Kung sinasabi mo pong walang beef sa sinabi ko, sa yo lang po yun. The readers know and can discern my intentions, although maybe, you are not one of them that can discern. Brother, sorry po, hindi ko po ibibigay sa yo ang katuwiran ng Dios na sagot para yurakan mo lang. The clarity in the Word of God is not for all people. My recommendation to you is ask your own pastor, the same disputes you're asking me or if you're not content of their answers, then it's best that you ask the only sensible preacher in our time, Brother Eli Soriano.Yun po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

haha si soriano ang pasagutin mo dito -

you have been beating around the bush - then take soriano and let him answer

him-

alm m wala kang nasasagot kanina pa eh

then what is the flesh of Jesus - iba nanaman ang pinasok mo
mukang naglolokohan lang yata tayo-

ah - ano kaya ang dugo ni Jesus bka synthethic blood-

tapos ang flesh niya soya beans extract ano-

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYANDELA CRUZ:

salamat po sa comment mo july. Pasensya ka na po pero yung sinabi mo po ay coupled ng tawa na walang karunungang sagot. You are mocking Christ and my preacher.Please, don't call me bro, hindi po tayo magkapatid.Sa mga kagaya mo po, wala po akong sagot na ibabahagi.yun po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

ang logic mo malayo- ang analogy mo malayo-

then give me the meaning of this three according to you interpretation

jesus came into the flesh

became flesh

and has taken our flesh

I want you to give you meaning of the three above mr wise guy?

loko ka iniscratch mo pa ako ha-

You know i have pasted every thing here and will attack in in BLOG

 SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego, you're going too far.You are already mocking My Lord Jesus Christ. Sana po yung kalokohan mo dalhin mo na lang sa bubble gang, mas patok ka doon at sa mga tulad mo. Like what I said, you cannot get an answer from me because you don't deserve it.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

YOU IDIOT YOU ARE THE ONE MOCKING JESUS CHRIST-

HINDI KITA KAPATID AT MABUTI SINABI MO WALA AKONG KAPATID NA DEMONYO

PURO KAYO KALOKOHAN SA MGA PINAGSASABI NINYO-

I DONT DESERVE IT? - I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER FROM
YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE AN ANSWER

TO YOUR STUPID STATEMENTS- GOOD YOU ARE TALKING THAT WAY
IN TIME YOU WILL SEE THIS BLOGGED

GETZ MO HA

YOU WHAT - WHY DONT YOU TRY SELLING DVDs INSTEAD

THE WAY YOU REASON OUT AND SAY THINGS - ARE THE WAYS

OF THOSE WHO SELL DVDS IN GREENHILLS-

PATIGASAN NA TALAGA NG MUKHA ANO-

KAPAL MO

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN  DELA CRUZ:

Hindi po, mali ka po ngh iniisip. Kunin mo po sana sa context ang sinabi ko. You started with mocking my Lord Jesus Christ and my preacher, kaya sinabi ko pong please, don't call me bro, hindi po tayo magkapatid. Whoever that has something evil to say about my God or my preacher is not a brother to me but an enemy. Makuntento ka po dyan.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

YOU SAID THE VERY EVIL THING ABOUT JESUS CHRIST ALREADY

DENYING THAT HE CAME INTO THIS WORLD AS A NORMAL MAN LIKE

EVERY NORMAL HUMAN CAN BE-

SIGE THEN EXPLAIN THE HUMANITY OF JESUS CHRIST-

WAG MO NA AKO PAIKUTIN KO KASI KUNG KAHARAP KITA SA DEBATE

EH ANG MGA TAO ME GAGAWIN NA SA IYO -

OK - SIGE IPALIWANAG MO ANG HUMANITY NI JESUS CHRIST

WHAT KIND OF FLESH DID HE TAKE AND THE BLOOD THAT HE HAS


SAGOT NI MICHAEL DELA CRUZ:

Diego, malinaw po ngayon sa akin na nandito ka sa discussion board para humanap ng taong pasasamain mo sa blog mo. Sana po mabago pa ang nasa isip mo bago ka magkasala ng malaki sa Dios. Hindi po ako natatakot sa gagawin mo, alam po namin na ang mga masasamang tao ay patuloy na gagawang may kasamaan at wala sa masasama na makakaunawa. Alam din po namin na hindi kayo titrigil sa pagpapasama sa daang matuwid ng Panginoon. Kung gagawin mo ito o hindi, magpapasalamat pa po ako ng marami sa aming Dios.

Again Diego, you cannot get any answer from me because you don't deserve it. I'm sorry.Sana po makuntento ka na sa sagot ko.Salamat po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

IPAPAKITA KO LANG SA MUNDO ANG MGA KAGAGUHAN NINYO KAAWAY

DONT EVER MENTION THE NAME OF GOD YOU HAVE NO GOD!!!!!
HINDI KITA TINATAKOT

ANG MGA TAO ANG GAGAWA SA INYO DAHIL SA MGA KAGAGUHANG PINAGSASABI MO DITO KAAWAY
AH YAN ANG SABIHIN MO SA PUNO MO PARA HINDI SIYA NAGTATAGO
SA MGA KAAWAY NIYA

I WAS LOOKING FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND YOU REALLY ENTERTAINED
ME KAAWAY

YEAH YOU DID

YOU KNOW YOU BETTER HAVE YOURSELF CHECKED UP BY A SHRINK

AND FIND OUT IF YOUR STL OK WITH YOUR COCO UP THERE HUH


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

fix me your broken, sa katotohanan po, malinaw ang turo ng kapatid na Eli, sa mga taong binubuksan ng Dios ang unawa. Kung sa yo po hindi malinaw, may dahilan po ang Dios na Sya lamang ang nakakaalam. Again po, kung di po deserving ang taong humihingi ng sagot, di ko po ibibigay. Di po namin dinidios ang kapatid na Eli, malaki lamang po ang paggalang namin sa Kanya dahil Sya po ang sugo ng Dios. Kung di nyo po ito tanggap, makuntento na po sana kayo sa sinabi ko.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

AH SAAN SA BIBLE SINASABI NA ISINUGO SIYA NG DIYOS

SIGE KAAWAY TRY TO CNVINCE ME ON THIS ONE PARA ENTERTAINED NAMAN

AKO SA IYO-


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego, you can mock me anytime you want. If the people will judge me according to your standards, then it favors you. But I personally believe that most people are wiser than your level. Basahin mo po ang mga sinabi mo sa akin then ask your conscience kung sa tingin mo nakakuha ka ng kaibigan o ng taong pasasamain sa blog mo.Ikaw lang po ang nagtuturing sa akin na kaaway. I"m sorry, but if you have problems with people who don't want to talk because they want to exercise not involving with useless argumentation, alam mo na po siguro kung sino ang dinidios mo at kaaway po ang hanap mo.You came to the wrong place sir. Better look some place else where they welcome people like you.Be content.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

AT MY LEVEL?

you know I HAVE TO DIG SO LOW IN THE GROUND JUST TO REACH YOUR LEVEL

YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING NOR REASON OUT WITH ANYTHING

YES I WILL BLOG EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID AND IN SEQUENCE

SO PEOPLE WILL FIND OUT HOW STUPID YOU ARE KAAWAY

PROBABLY THE WORLD WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU WHEN THEY READ IT

YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC WAY OF TRYING TO BE SMART

BUT YOU OVERDID YOURSELF AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE COMEDY ALREADY-

WHOEVER YOU ARE - I KNOW HOW IT IS TO BE A PAID HACK-

IT IS A TOUGH WAY TO LIVE

DO YOU FIND IT HARD TO FIND A JOB? probably so-

BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE A FOOL

COME ON MAKE ME LAUGH MORE


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Sorry po again to both of you, you don't deserve the answer. Please be content with that. You can stop trying to convice me because I'm hard as a rock with what I stand for.You can say a lot of mockery or lies against me but you will still not get any answer from me.May the Lord God have mercy and enlighten you.Goodbye po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

NO WHO SAID WE ARE OUT TO CONVINCE YOU

STAY PUT IN YOUR CULT-

WE DO NOT NEED YOU IN OURS ANYWAY

WE ARE ONLY SEEKING ENTERTAINMENT FROM YOU

AND YOU REALLY ARE A GOOD ENTERTAINER


SABI NI FIX ME:

si iNgkOng at iKAw ang HINDI DESERVING...

bAkit??? kaSi purO kaYO taKBO...

wahahahahaha!!!

kaPAg naSa deBAte si ingkong pUrO PAGMUMURA aaBUTin ng kaTungaLi...

kaHit sa ExPo ninYO pagMUMURA lang ang bUkam bibiG ng MAesTra mOh...

kawawa ka talga...

taHan nah sA pag-iYak mR.de la cRuz...

kAtoliKo pa yUng sUrname mOh...


naLokO ka sa isang maNLOLOKo...

cgE kita kitz baka mAy sagot ka kUng bAkit ang DioS maY pwet///??


ANO ANG MASASABI MO DITO ELI SORIANO? TULUNGAN MO ANG MIEMBRO MO PARA HINDI NAGMUMUKHANG KAWAWA.

7 comments:

  1. hehehe..

    natataWA akO sa TaOng yAn....

    IBA daw yUng FLESH sa kataWan ni CrisTO sa satin (TAo)...

    wahahahaha!!!...

    aBnOrmaL nah tUrO nah waLAng kabuLuhan...

    wahahahaha!!!

    kaYA nag -taNong akO sa taOng yAn nah:

    ANONG KLASENG FLESH MAYROON si CristO???

    at ang sagot nYA ay:
    --------------------------------------------
    Sorry po again to both of you, you don't deserve the answer.
    --------------------------------------------

    wahahahahha!!!!

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  2. Iisa lang ang likas na kalagayan ng isang being.

    Si Cristo DIOS na nag anyong tao.

    Tao ang katawan pero ang nasa loob nun DIOS.

    bagong kaanib ng ADD nakausap nito. may paksa sa Pasalamat na "Kung bakit ang Panginoong JesuCristo ay tao rin"

    nga pala, kung paniwala ng Simbahan ay tao rin likas na kalagayan ni Cristo at di lang DIOS, they should not debate with INCs kung paniwala nyo tao din si Cristo.

    Si Cristo ay DIOS na nasa loob ng anyong tao.

    kaya nung namatay ang katawan, yung Espiritu pumunta sa bilangguan ng mga espiritu (1 Pedro 3:18-19) Catholic Church believes on it also.

    yung Espiritung nasa loob ng katawan, DIOS yun (Colosas 2:9)nananahan sa katawang tao ni Cristo sa lupa.

    Tao yung katawan pero yung nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.

    kung pinag uusapan nyo ay tunay na likas na kalagayan ni Cristo, natural DIOS siya. (original nature niya ah) naniniwala naman ang Simbahan na ang original nature ni Jesus eh DIOS.

    pero nung nasa lupa, naging 2. yung katawan ay tao pero ang nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.

    bagong kaanib lang nakausap nyo. may paksa sa pasalamatan na "kung bakit ang Panginoong Jesus ay tao rin"

    P.S. iisa lang pinagkaiba ng Christology natin. you dont believe that God and Jesus are equal. the rest magkapareho.

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  3. Nga pala, if you want to be knowledgeable sa ADD teachings, ask workers, Ministers in Charge, Officers in Charge and District Servants ng ADD ah.

    dahil di lahat ng kaanib alam lahat ng aral ng ADD.

    Again, tao ang katawan pero ang original nature ni Cristo ay DIOS. ganyan rin paniwala ng Simbahan.

    iisa lang pinagkaiba ng Christology natin: Jesus and God are not equal.

    the rest the same.

    P.S. Pasalamat kayo educated nakausap nyo. kung di tapos mag aral yan, katakot takot na mura aabutin nyo.

    kung galit kayo kay Bro. Eli, wag kaming mga kaanib balingan nyo. balingan nyo blog niya. (www.esoriano.wordpress.com)

    nga pala, dont expect na lagi kayong di magagantihan sa pang aapi nyo. di lahat ng mga kaanib ay matatag ang loob. tandaan mo kahit si Pedro nanaga sa tenga.

    kaya wag nyong abusin ito kundi baka may pumitik ng tenga nyo na kapatid namin.

    saka nagtataka ako, nakikipagkaibigan kayo sa INC pero turo sa kanila sa demonyo kayo. tapos kami ayaw nyo kaibiganin.

    kung tutuusin sila dapat di kaibiganin kasi sa impiyerno raw kayo. kami walang paniwalang ganun.

    try to befriend us, malalaman mo kung ano talaga tinuro ng mangangaral namin.

    we are taught to be ecumenical. ang mga preachers lang namin ang umaatake sa ibang relihiyon. bawal sa amin ang mag umpisa ng debate unless challenged.

    besides your Pope is calling you to be ecumenical. kaya pls. stop attacking ADD facebook profiles.

    We dont attack Catholic groups sa FB so dapat rumespeto naman kayo.

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  4. ANG EVANGELIO N1 JESUCRISTO
    Mga minamahal na kapatid, ang ating Panginoong Jesucristo ay nagpahayag ng Evangelio o
    Mabuting Balita ng Kaharian ng Langit na nagsasabi, "Gayon na lamang ang pagsinta ng Dios sa
    sanglibutan na ibinigay niya ang kaniyang bugtong na Anak, upang ang sinoman sa kaniya'y
    sumampalataya ay huwag mapahamak, kundi magkaroon ng buhay na walang hanggan. Sapagka't
    hindi sinugo ng Dios ang Anak sa sanglibutan upang hatulan ang sanglibutan; kundi upang ang
    sanlibutan ay maligtas sa pamamagitan niya. Ang sumasampalataya sa kaniya ay hindi hinahatulan;
    ang hindi sumasampalataya ay hinatulan na, sapagkat hindi siya sumampalataya sa pangalan ng
    bugtong na Anak ng Dios" (JUAN 3:16-17).
    Oo, sa katotohanan ay ito nga ang isa sa pinakamaganda, kung hindi man ang siyang
    pinakamaganda. at pinakamaluwalhating sitas o talata sa Banal na Biblia na kinalulugdang bigkasin
    ng maraming kristiano, na ang iba pa nga'y ginagawang pinakapaksa ng kanilang pangangaral.
    Datapwa't nakalulungkot nga lang sabihin, mga kapatid, na itong Mabuting Balita na ipinahayag ng
    ating Panginoon ay hindi nabigyan ng sakdal at sapat na paliwanag na nararapat upang sa huli'y
    gumanap sa ikagagaling ng mga tunay na nangagsisisampalataya.
    Kaya't ngayon nga'y ang Espiritu ng Panginoon ay kinilos ako, na kaniyang abang lingkod at
    inyong kapatid kay Gristo, upang sumulat ng isang higit na masusi at malawak na paliwanag tungkol
    dito sa marilag na pahayag ni Jesucristo ukol sa Pag-ibig ng Dios para sa sangkatauhan. Narito, akin
    ngang gaganapin sa gabay ng Espiritu Santo sa pamamagitan ng pagbabaybay ng buong sitas o talata
    na binibigyang halaga at kahulugan ang bawa't bahagi...
    "Gayon na lamang ang pag-ibig ng Dios sa sanglibutan, na kaniyang ibinigay ang kaniyang
    bugtong na Anak" ....
    Mga kapatid, Bakit kaya gayon na lamang kalaki ang pag-ibig o pagsinta ng Dios sa
    sanglibutan? Hindi man lamang ba natin ito pinagtatakhan o pinagmumuni-muni ? At sino ang
    Sanglibutan? Ito ba ang daigdig o ' planeta na ating tinatahanan at ginagalawan? 0 hindi baga ito ang
    Sangkatauhan mismo, na siyang bayan o bansa at sanglibutan ng Dios sa kaniyang Espiritu?
    Oo, sa katotohanan, mga minamahal na kapatid, tayo nga, ang Tao ang siyang itinuturing ng
    Dios na kaniyang sinisintang sanglibutan. Nguni't ano ang Tao upang siya'y mahalin at alalahanin ng
    Dios nang ganoong kalaki, na sukdulang ibigay ang kaniyang bugtong na Anak upang mamatay para
    sa atin? Kung ang kaniyang Panganay na Anak na si Gristo Jesus ang siyang pinakasisintang Anak na
    kinaluluguran sa lahat (gaya nang kaniyang pagpapatotoo sa maraming bahagi ng Kasulatan), ay
    sabihin ninyo naman sa akin ano sa palagay ninyo, gaano kamahal din naman kaya tayong mga Tao sa
    Dios - na tiniis niya ang malagim na pag-iisip na ang kaniyang pinakamamahal na Anak ay mabugbog,
    mapako at mamatay sa krus?

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  5. Kung gayon, hindi kaya na tayo nga'y kasingmahal din ng pagmamahal niya sa kaniyang
    bugtong na Anak na si Jesus? Oo, siya ngang totoo'. Kung gayon ano nga ang tao na handang ialay ng
    Ama ang sinisintang Anak na si Jesucristo para sa ating katubusan at kaligtasan, na magbubo ng dugo
    o ibigay ang kaniyang buhay dahil sa atin? At bakit pa rin sa palagay ninyo na naparito si Gristo sa
    anyo ng tao ayon sa laman, tulad mo at ako, at hindi tulad sa anyo ng mga anghel?
    Naitanong na ba natin sa ating sarili kailanman, Sino ako? 0 Ano ba ako? Na ang aking Dios o
    ang Lumikha sa akin ay nagpahayag ng dakilang pag-ibig sa akin samakatwid baga'y sa
    pamamamagitan ng pag-aalay ng buhay ng kaniyang anak para sa akin ng walang pag-aatubili o
    pagdadalawang isip.
    Gaya nang sinasabi ng Kasulatan, "Nguni't siya'y nasugatan dahil sa ating mga pagsalangsang,
    siya'y nabugbog dahil sa ating mga kasalanan, ang parusa tungkol sa ating kapayapaan ay nasa
    kaniya; at sa pamamagitan ng kaniyang mga latay ay nagsigaling tayo... Gayon ma'y kinalugdan ng
    Panginoon na mabugbog siya; inilagay niya siya sa pagdaramdam; pagka iyong gagawin ang kaniyang
    kaluluwa na pinakahandog dahil sa kasalanan, makikita niya ang kaniyang lahi, pahahabain niya ang
    kaniyang mga kaarawan, at ang pagkalugod ng Panginoon ay lalago sa kaniyang kamay" (ISAIAS
    53:5,10).
    Subali't bakit kinakailangang mamatay siya sa katayuan ko? Ano nga ba ako, na isang tao
    lamang, na ang kaniyang iisang bugtong na Anak ay ibigay para sa akin? Mangyayari kaya na
    mayroong isang ugnayan o relasyon sa pagitan ng aking Dios at ako, na lubos na lingid sa aking
    kaalaman? Ang relasyon kayang ito'y higit kaysa yaong relasyon ng isang Lumalang sa nilalang
    lamang? Hindi kaya ang pagkahayag ng kaniyang dakilang pag-ibig sa tao, sa pagbibigay ng kaniyang
    pinakamamahal na Anak upang mamatay para sa tao, ay maliwanag na nagpapahiwatig sa ating mga
    puso at isipan na mayroon din ganitong kalapit na ugnayan o relasyon, gaya ng sa namamagitan sa
    isang ama at anak, ay nananalaytay kahit man lang sa puso ng Dios para sa atin?
    Sapagka't hanggang sa ating matagpuan ang mga natatagong kasagutan sa mga personal at
    mapanghamon na katanungan at ang pagkaunawa tungkol sa katotohanan ng relasyon ng tao sa
    kaniyang Dios o Manlilikha, ay hindi natin lubos na mapapag-uunawa o mapapaniwalaan ng buong
    puso ang pag-ibig ng Dios sa sanglibutan kay Cristo.
    Nguni't hayaan ninyong talakayin ko ito sa bandang huli, mga kapatid, yamang ang banal na
    bagay na ito ang may malaking bahagi sa Patotoo ng Panginoong Jesucristo sa Katotohanan ng Dios.
    Samantala ay magpatuloy tayo sa nasabing sitas ng Evangelio ... "Upang ang sinomang sa kaniya'y
    sumampalataya ay huwag mapahamak": Kunggayon nga iniatas ng Dios na tayo'y kinakailangang
    sumampalataya sa kaniyang Anak upang tayo'y mabuhay at huwag mapahamak.
    Subali't ano ang dapat nating sampalatayanan kay Jesucristo upang tayo'y mabuhay? Yaon
    lamang bagang tungkol sa kaniyang dakilang katauhan o katayuan - na siya ang Anak ng Dios, ang
    Pinahiran ng Langis, ang Manunubos, ang Cristo ? Sapat na ba na ating tanggapin at tawagin siya na
    ating Panginoon ay makakabahagi na tayo kapagdaka sa biyaya ng kaligtasan at katubusan gaya ng
    inaari at itinuturo ng maraming mangangaral na kristiano?

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  6. ANG DAKILANG LAYUNIN NG PAGPARITO N1 GRISTO SA SANGLIBUTAN
    Bakit naparito sa lupa ang Anak ng Dios na si Jesucristo?
    Bagaman atin na itong natalakay ng maikli sa unang bahagi ng aking kalatas, ay hayaan
    ninyong akin pa ring paliwanagin ang mahalagang paksang ito yamang dito naman nakasalalay ang
    mas malalim na saligan ng ating pananampalataya sa Dios at kay Cristo Jesus.
    Sa kabuuan, naparito nga sa lupa ang Cristo o Mesias upang GANAPIN ANG KALOOBAN
    NG DIOS. Gaya ng nasusulat, "Kaya't pagpasok niya sa sanglibutan, ay sinasabi, Hain at handog ay
    hindi mo ibig, Nguni't isang katawan ang sa akin ay inihanda mo; Sa mga handog na susunugin at mga
    haing patungkol sa mga kasalanan ay hindi ka nalugod. Nang magkagayo'y sinabi ko, Narito, ako'y
    pumarito (sa balumbon ng aklat ay nasusulat tungkol sa akin.) Upang gawin, Oh Dios, ang iyong
    kalooban." (HEBREO 10: 5-7). Kaya nga, si Cristo ay naparito hindi upang ganapin ang kaniyang
    sariling kalooban, kundi ang kalooban ng nagsugo sa kaniya (Ang Dios Ama). Sa kaloobang yaon
    tayo'y pinapaging-banal, sa pamamagitan ng pagkahandog ng katawan ni Cristo na minsan
    magpakailan man. (ROMA 10:10).
    At ito nga, gaya ng atin nang dinaanan, ay isang kaloob na walang bayad mula sa Dios, isang
    dakilang biyaya na dumating sa pamamagitan ni Cristo para sa kanila na magsisisampalataya sa
    kaniya.
    Nguni't muli, ANO nga ang dapat pa nating sampalatayanan kay Cristo Jesus upang
    makamtan ang biyayang ito? Ang sampalatayanan ang lahat ng mga Salita ng Dios na lumabas sa
    bibig ni Cristo; sapagka't ito ang kalooban ng Dios, na salitain ng kaniyang Cristo ang lahat ng
    kaniyang salita para sa kaniyang bayan. Gaya ng sinalita ng Dios nang una pa kay Moises, na
    nagsasabi, " Aking palilitawin sa kanila ang isang propeta sa gitna ng kanilang mga kapatid, na gaya
    mo; at aking ilalagay ang aking mga salita sa bibig niya, at kaniyang sasalitain sa kanila ang lahat ng
    aking iuutos sa kaniya. At mangyayari, na sinomang hindi makinig sa aking mga salita na kaniyang
    sasalitain sa aking Pangalan, ay aking sisiyasatin yaon sa kaniya." (DEUTERONOMIO 18:18-19).
    Kaya nga, nang panahong ukol na, nang pasimulan ni Jesucristo ang kaniyang pangangaral ay
    kaniyang sinabi, "Ang sumasampalataya sa akin, ay hindi sa akin sumasampalataya, kundi doon sa
    nagsugo sa akin. . . At kung ang sinomang tao'y nakikinig sa aking mga pananalita, at hindi ingatan, ay
    hindi ko siya hinahatulan: sapagka't hindi ako naparito upang humatol sa sanglibutan, kundi upang
    iligtas ang sanglibutan. Ang nagtatakwil sa akin, at hindi tumatanggap sa aking mga pananalita, ay
    mayroong isang hahatol sa kaniya: ang salitang aking sinalita. ay siyang sa kaniya'y hahatol sa huling
    araw. Sapagka't ako'y hindi nagsasalita na mula sa aking sarili; kundi ang Ama na sa akin ay nagsugo,
    ay siyang nagbigay sa akin ng utos, kung ano ang dapat kong sabihin, at kung ano ang dapat kong
    salitain. At nalalaman ko na ang kaniyang utos ay buhay na walang hanggan; ang mga bagay nga na
    sinasalita ko, ay ayon sa sinabi sa akin ng Ama, gayon ko sinasalita." (JUAN 12: 44-50).

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