ANG LUMPIA CHRISTOLOGY NI ELI SORIANO

Anonymous said...

Iisa lang ang likas na kalagayan ng isang being.

Si Cristo DIOS na nag anyong tao.

Tao ang katawan pero ang nasa loob nun DIOS.

bagong kaanib ng ADD nakausap nito. may paksa sa Pasalamat na "Kung bakit ang Panginoong JesuCristo ay tao rin"

nga pala, kung paniwala ng Simbahan ay tao rin likas na kalagayan ni Cristo at di lang DIOS, they should not debate with INCs kung paniwala nyo tao din si Cristo.

Si Cristo ay DIOS na nasa loob ng anyong tao.

kaya nung namatay ang katawan, yung Espiritu pumunta sa bilangguan ng mga espiritu (1 Pedro 3:18-19) Catholic Church believes on it also.

yung Espiritung nasa loob ng katawan, DIOS yun (Colosas 2:9)nananahan sa katawang tao ni Cristo sa lupa.

Tao yung katawan pero yung nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.

kung pinag uusapan nyo ay tunay na likas na kalagayan ni Cristo, natural DIOS siya. (original nature niya ah) naniniwala naman ang Simbahan na ang original nature ni Jesus eh DIOS.

pero nung nasa lupa, naging 2. yung katawan ay tao pero ang nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.

bagong kaanib lang nakausap nyo. may paksa sa pasalamatan na "kung bakit ang Panginoong Jesus ay tao rin"

P.S. iisa lang pinagkaiba ng Christology natin. you dont believe that God and Jesus are equal. the rest magkapareho.
January 20, 2010 12:27 PM



REPLY OF THE CATHOLICS

to: MISTER ANONYMOUS NA ADD

KAAWAY HINDI PAREHO ANG PANIWALA NATIN SA ESSENCE ,SUBSTANCE OR NATURE NG DIYOS-

PUMUNTA KA NA LANG SA KATEKISMO NAMIN AT WALA KAMING SINASABI SA LOOB AT SA LABAS

MERON KA PA KASING SA LOOB AT SA LABAS- MUKANG KENDI O LUMPIA YATA ITONG SINASABI MO-

KASI PARANG CHOCOLATE O LUMPIA SI CRISTO SA INYO- CRISPY SA LABAS AT NADUN ANG LAMAN SA LOOB-

PAANO MO NALAMAN - SA LOOB AY DIYOS- GAANO KA LALIM PAGKATAPOS NG BALAT NI JESUS ANG PAGKA DIYOS NIYA

IBIGAY MO NGA SA AKIN ANG LALIM- PARANG BUHOK LANG YAN- GAANO KAHABA ANG MAHABA 0 ANG IGSI SA MAIKSI

IBIGAY MO NGA SA AKIN ANG SUKAT NA GALING SA BIBLIA-

NASA BA ANG KALULUWA NG TAO NASA LOOB O NASA LABAS? NAKITA NA BA NI ELI KUNG NASAAN ITO

PARANG YUNG PUWIT -SIYA LANG YATA ANG TAO NA NAKAKITA NITO


SA LOOB AT SA LABAS NAMAN SA ANYO NI CRISTO- IBIGAY MO SA AKIN SAAN SA LOOB NG ANYON CRISTO ANG DIYOS

WALA TAYONG PAREHONG ARAL AT TURO-

LALO MONG PINALALA- MAS BAGUHAN KA PA YATA KAY RYAN DE LA CRUZ- O IKAW DIN YAN


KUNG HINDI MO MAIBIBIGAY- ANONG KENDI BA ITO O LUMPIA- SHANGHAI O FREASH LUMPIA

SORI FOR THE DELAY IN REPLY- DAMI LANG KASING GINAGAWA

MGA KAMANGMANGAN AT PAGMAMARUNONG NI ELISEO "DEMONYO" SORIANO

May panahon ba na wala ang Diyos Anak? (3)
MAY NAKAKAUSAP pong miyembro ng ANG DATING DAAN o ADD ang reader nating si Ozner at sinasabi raw nung kausap niya na "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK" ng DIYOS AMA ang ANAK Niyang si HESU KRISTO.

ANO po ba ang KAHULUGAN ng "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK"?

Sa ISIP NATIN, ang LARAWAN po ng NANGANGANAK ay yung BABAE na UMIIRI at NAGHIHIRAP para ISILANG ang isang BATA. Hindi po ba?

GANOON po ba ang ibig sabihin ng "LITERAL na NANGANAK?"

Kung ganyan po ang nasa isip nung ADD na kausap ni Ozner ay MALI PO ang PANINIWALA NIYA.

NAGBABATAY po kasi sila sa MALI NILANG PAGKAUNAWA sa pagiging ANAK ng DIYOS ng PANGINOONG HESUS.

At isa iyan ang ginagamit nila para sabihin na "HINDI PANTAY" ang AMA at ANAK.

TAMA po na si HESUS ay ANAK ng DIYOS. TAMA na si KRISTO ay LUMABAS MULA sa AMA.
,
Pero MALI po yung KONSEPTO na IPINANGANAK SIYA na TULAD ng sa TAO.

Sa sinasabi nung ADD na "IPINANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK" ay tila PINALALABAS NILA na NUNG HINDI PA IPINANGANGANAK si HESUS ay "WALA PA ang ANAK."

Hindi po ba ganyan ang sa tao? May panahon na WALA PA ang ANAK at NAGKAKAROON LANG ng ANAK kapag NAKAPANGANAK NA ANG BABAE.

So, kung ilalapat iyan sa DIYOS ay pinalalabas nga ng IBA na NUNG HINDI PA IPINAPANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK ay WALA PA ANG ANAK.

Sa nauna po nating artikulo ay tinalakay na natin ang MALING PANINIWALA na "MAY PANAHON NA WALA PA ANG ANAK."

Ang AMA, ANAK at ESPIRITU SANTO (o ang TATLONG PERSONA ng IISANG DIYOS) ay SABAY-SABAY NA UMIIRAL: WALANG NAUNA at WALANG NAHULI. Ang BAWAT ISA ay WALANG SIMULA at WALANG KATAPUSAN.

May mga tao po kasi na NALILITO sa sinabi ng Proverbs 8:22-25.

Diyan ay nagsasalita ang KARUNUNGAN ng DIYOS.

Sabi po sa 1 Corinthians 1:24, ang KARUNUNGAN ng DIYOS ay si KRISTO.

Sa Prov 8:24 ay sinasabi ng KARUNUNGAN na "Noong wala pang malalalim na dagat AKO AY INILUWAL (o IPINANGANAK) ..."

Ang SALITANG HEBREO po kasing ginamit riyan ay "KHOLALTI" (bigkas ay "CHUWL") na ang kahulugan ay IPINANGANAK.

Diyan marahil kinuha ng iba ang paniniwala nilang "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK" ng DIYOS AMA ang KANYANG ANAK.

Ayon sa STRONG'S HEBREW DICTIONARY, Number 02342, ang KAHULUGAN ng KHOLALTI (CHUWL) ay ang sumusunod:

1. to twist, whirl, dance, writhe, fear, tremble, travail, be in anguish, be pained

A. (Qal)
a. to dance
b. to twist, writhe
c. to whirl, whirl about

B. (Polel)
a. to dance
b. to writhe (in travail with), bear, bring forth
c. to wait anxiously

C. (Pulal)
a. to be made to writhe, be made to bear
b. to be brought forth

D. (Hophal) to be born

E. (Hithpolel)
a. whirling (participle)
b. writhing, suffering torture (participle)
c. to wait longingly

F. (Hithpalpel) to be distressed

Paki pansin po ang kahulugan sa Letrang D na "to be born."

Baka po nabasa ng taga-ADD ang kahulugan ng KHOLALTI at NAISIP NILA na "ABA! OO NGA! LITERAL na IPINANGANAK ang ANAK!"

Pero LITERAL nga po ba porke ginamit ang salitang KHOLALTI (CHUWL) para sa "IPINANGANAK."

HINDI po.

Paki puna po ninyo na ang LITERAL na KAHULUGAN ng KHOLALTI ay MAY KASAMANG "PAMIMILIPIT" (WRITHE = A, b; B, b; C, a; E, b).

Ang DIYOS po ba ay MAMIMILIPIT para "IPANGANAK" ang KARUNUGAN?

Ayon pa nga po sa DEFINITION E, letrang b, ay "writhing, suffering TORTURE."

Ganoon? MAMIMILIPIT po ba sa SAKIT ang DIYOS para IPANGANAK ang KARUNUNGAN?

HINDI po!

Ang PAMIMILIPIT po sa SAKIT habang NANGANGANAK ay DOON IBINIGAY ng DIYOS sa BABAE (EBA) matapos na SIYA ay MAGKASALA.

Sabi po ng DIYOS sa Genesis 3:16, "PATITINDIHIN KO ang PAGHIHIRAP ng IYONG PAGDADALANTAO at MASAKIT MONG ILULUWAL ang IYONG mga ANAK."

Sa madaling salita po ang MASAKIT na PANGANGANAK ay BUNGA ng KASALANAN.

Kung sasabihin nino man na LITERAL na IPINANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK ay sinasabi nila na NAMILIPIT DIN sa SAKIT ang AMA nung INILUWAL NIYA ang ANAK.

Palalabasin nila na APEKTADO rin ng BUNGA na KASALANAN ang AMA.

TAMA PO BANG PANIWALAAN ang GANOON?

MALI po. Ang DIYOS ay SAKDAL LINIS at BUSILAK kaya HINDI SIYA MAMIMILIPIT sa SAKIT sa PAGSILANG sa KANYANG ANAK.

Pero kung ganoon po ay BAKIT GINAMIT ang KHOLALTI (CHUWL) para ILARAWAN ang PANGANGANAK ng DIYOS sa KANYANG ANAK?

Ginamit po iyan para MALINAW na ILARAWAN na ang ANAK o KARUNUNGAN ay NAGMULA MISMO sa AMA: DIYOS MULA SA DIYOS, IISA ang SANGKAP ng PAGKA-DIYOS at IISA ang PAGIGING DIYOS.

Ang PUNTO ay yung KATIYAKAN sa PINAGMULAN ng ANAK (DIYOS na NAGMULA sa DIYOS) at HINDI YUNG PROSESO (PAMIMILIPIT sa SAKIT).

MULI, HINDI iyan NANGANGAHULUGAN na "MAY PANAHON na WALA ang ANAK" at "UMIRAL LANG SIYA NUNG IPANGANAK ng AMA."

Ang DIYOS ANAK bilang KARUNUNGAN at KAPANGYARIHAN ng AMA (1 Cor 1:24) ay KASAMA NA ng AMA sa PASIMULA (Jn 1:1) at BAGO PA ang PASIMULA (Jn 17:5).

Ang AMA at ANAK kasi ay IISA. (Jn 10:30)

Ganoon po iyon.

GALING PO ITO KAY CONVOY

PURGATORY

PURGATORY IS AN OLD WORD COMING FROM THE EARLY LANGUAGE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, LATIN- I T MEANS TO PURGE , TO CLEAN OR TO
PURIFY-

THIS WORD CAN BE FOUND IN THE LATIN VULGATE THE FIRST BIBLE, ITALIAN AND SPANISH. AND OTHER EUROPEAN BIBLES.


"For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ," (1 Cor. 3:11).

AND CHRIST LAID THIS FOUNDATION TO THE
TWELVE APOSTLES

THE APOSTLES TO THE BISHOPS

AND THE BISHOPS TO THEIR SUCCEEDING BISHOPS


"AS THE FATHER HAS SENT ME SO I SEND YOU
ANYONE WHO REJECTS YOU REJECTS THE ONE WHO SENT
ME"





REVELATION 21:27- "NOTHING UNCLEAN WILL BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD"


1 CORINTHIANS 3:10
PAUL IS SAYING ,"I AS A GOOD ARCHITECT, ACCORDING TO THE

CAPACITY GIVEN TO ME , I LAID THE FOUNDATION

AND NO OTHER IS TO BUILD UPON IT-LET EACH ONE BE CAREFUL HOW HE

BUILDS UPON IT.


... PAUL IS SAYING THAT HE FOUNDED CHURCHES IN HIS MISSION TO

THE GENTILES , NOW SIMILARLY HE WILL SAY THAT HE CAN NOT LAY A

FOUNDATION ON ANOTHER MANS TEACHING IN ROME , I WILL DEAL WITH

THAT LATER IN THE BOOK OF ROMANS.


GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE- DEUTERONOMY 4:24



VERSE 11 "

"NO ONE LAY A FOUNDATION A FOUNDATION OTHER THE ONE WHICH IS

ALREADY LAID, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST"


PAUL IS NOW SAYING THAT THERE IS ANOTHER KIND OF FOUNDATION ,

THE ONE LAID BY JESUS CHRIST - AND WE HAVE TO BUILD ON THAT

FOUNDATION- ATOP OF THAT FOUNDATION AND NOT LAY ANOTHER

FOUNDATION BUT TO BUILD ON THAT FOUNDATION- WHAT ARE THESE


TO CONTINUE.....

verse 12

" THEN IF SOMEONE BUILDS UPON THIS FOUNDATION, ANOTHER WITH

SILVER, AND PRECIOUS STONES, OR WITH WOOD, BAMBOO OR STRAW.



PAUL IS NOW SAYING WE HAVE TO BUILD UPON THIS FOUNDATION


VERSE 13-

"THE WORK OF EACH ONE WILL BE SHOWN FOR WHAT IT IS. THE DAY OF

JUDGEMENT WILL REVEAL IT REPEAT THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WILL REVEAL

IT, BECAUSE FIRE WILL MAKE EVERYTHING KNOWN. THE FIRE WILL TEST

THE WORK OF EVERYONE"




PAUL IS NOW SAYING ON OUR JUDGEMENT DAY WHETHER GENERAL OR

PARTICULAR JUDGMENT -PARTICULAR MEANING OUR OWN VERY PERSONAL

ON THE DAY WE MEET OUR MAKER, WE WILL FACE JESUS CHRIST.

AND THERE IS FIRE - WHERE WILL THIS FIRE COME FROM.


GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE- DEUTERONOMY 4:24



JESUS IS GOD- HE WILL BE OUR JUDGE ON THAT DAY WE MEET OUR MAKER


VERSE 14

"IF YOUR WORK WITHSTANDS THE FIRE YOU WILL BE REWARDED"


PAUL IS NOW SAYING TO EACH ONE OF US THAT OUR WORKS WILL BE LAID

UPON THE FOUNDATION

TO BE BURNED WITH GODS CONSUMING FIRE ON THAT DAY OF OUR

JUDGMENT.OUR DEATH





VERSE 15

"BUT IF YOUR WORK BECOMES ASHES , YOU WILL PAY FOR IT REPEAT YOU

WILL PAY FOR IT

YOU WILL BE SAVED repeat YOU WILL BE SAVED , BUT IT WILL BE AS

IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE"





NOW YOU WILL NOTICE THE VERSES 3:10 TO 15 TALKS ABOUT OUR WORKS

THAT WILL BE LAID ON THAT

FOUNDATION WHICH IS JESUS HIMSELF.


PAUL IS SAYING WHAT THE VALUE OF OUR WORKS OUR LIFE ON THIS EARTH WAS - METHAPHORICALLY ARE

THESE WORTH IN GOLD- THOSE WHO LIVED A VERY HOLY AND SAINTLY LIFE ON EARTH


WORTH IN SILVER -LOWER THAT THE WORKS OF THE SAINTS AND THE

APOSTLES


WORTH IN PRECIOUS STONES- I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN THIS. PRECIOUS

STONES DURING THOSE TIMES WERE NOT MUCH APPRECIATED AS TODAY

BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY AT THAT TIME HAS NO MEANS TO

GET THE BEAUTY FROM THIS STONES- THEY COULD NOT CUT AND POLISH

IT LIKE THEY DO TO THE

DIAMONDS OF TODAY. KAYA THIRD RATE NA PRECIOUS LANG ANG MGA ITO-

IT WAS STILL GOLD THAT

WAS THE NUMBER ONE.


HOW ABOUT THOSE WHOSE WORKS OF WOOD BAMBOO AND STRAW- THEY WILL

BURN - MEANING

YOUR WORKS DURING YOUR LIFE ON EARTH WERE NOT SO COMMENDABLE IN

THE SIGHT OF GOD. YOU COMMITED SINS THAT WILL NOT RESULT TO DEATH

YOU WILL BE SAVED ACCORDING TO THE VERSES BUT YOU WILL PAY

AS IF PASSING TO FIRE- YES MY FRIEND THAT IS PURGATORY- CALL IT

ANYWAY YOU WANT - IT IS A PLACE TO PURIFY YOU IN THE SIGHT OF

GOD.



WHY DID DAVID AND NEHEMIAH FASTED MOURNED AND PRAYED FOR THEIR

DEAD?

NEHEMIAH 1:4 NEHEMIAH FASTED PRAYED AND MOURNED FOR THE DEAD ,

1:7 FOR THE SINS OF HIS FAMILY AND HIS FATHER WHO DIED AND WAS BURIED IN THE RUINS
2:3 HIS FATHER IS DEAD AND BURIED


1 SAM 31:13 -DAVID TOOK THE BONES OF SAUL AND SON JONATHAN
2nd SAM 1:4 -SAUL AND SON JONATHAN ARE DEAD

1:11- DAVID FASTED PRAYED AND MOURNED FOR SAUL JONATHAN AND THE DEAD


SO NOW YOU WILL SEE THE JEWS REALLY PRAYED FOR THEIR DEAD

MATT 5:25-26 "YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO PRISON UNTIL THE LAST PENNY IS PAID"

matt 12:32- THERE WILL BE NO FORGIVENESS FOR THOSE WHO BLASPHEMY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THIS LIFE OR IN THE NEXT TO COME- WHAT IS THIS TO COME??

1 peter 3:18-20 "JESUS IN HIS SPIRIT PREACHED TO THIS SPIRITS IN PRISON"- WHO ARE THEN THESE SPIRITS THAT JESUS PREACHED TO, THEY HAVE BEEN DEAD SINCE THE GREAT FLOOD- CERTAINLY THIS IS NOT HELL- SOULS IN HELL ARE
INCOMMUNICADO- ALL HOPES ARE LOST- AND CONDEMNED FOREVER AND EVER AMEN.

1 JOHN 5:16-17 - SINS THAT WILL NOT RESULT TO THE DEATH OF YOUR SOUL AND THAT IS ETERNAL DAMNATION


PAUL SAYS IN 1 COR 3:15 YOU WILL BE REWARDED- YOU WILL PAY ,AS IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE

AND HOW WILL YOU PAY??

YOU WILL PAY UP TO LAST PENNY-THE GOSPWL SAYS

THE SPIRITS IN PRISON- HAD THEY PAID AND JESUS WILL NOW TAKE THEM OUT OF THAT PRISON FOR THE PROMISE OF HIS
RESURRECTION CAN NOW BE IMPLEMENTED-


THE NEXT AGE TO COME??- IS THIS HEAVEN? CERTAINLY NOT- FOR YOU ARE PAID AND FORGIVEN IN HEAVEN

IS THIS HELL-? you can not pay anymore- you have been damned

WHAT IS THIS PLACE AWAITING FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS- THERE IS ONLY ONE PLACE - AS IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE-
FOR YOU ARE BEING PURIFIED-

REVELATION- NOTHING UNCLEAN CAN ENTER HEAVEN-

THIS PLACE OF PURIFICATION CLEANS YOU UP FOR SINS THAT DOES NOT RESULT TO DEATH-

CALL IT WHAT YOU LIKE- BUT YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT THERE IS SUCH PLACE-

AND IT IS THE MERCY OF GOD FOR A SECOND CHANCE AND NO PLACE TO GO AFTER BUT TO HEAVEN-

Post #2
Elias Arzadon Jr wroteon December 8, 2009 at 9:09am
Purgatory


Intermediate state: Purgatory. No second chances – the souls there are saved, but through fire (1 Corinthians 3:15)


“There is a purgatory, and the souls there detained are assisted by the suffrages of the faithful, but especially by the most acceptable sacrifice of the altar” (Council of Trent).


This dogmatic definition contains 3 points of faith that all Catholics are required to believe:

1. There is a purgatory

2. After death, souls suffer there for their sins

3. The living can extend assistance to such souls


There is a purgatory



Forgiveness of sin in the next – Matthew 12:32

“Under the earth” – Revelations 5:2-3; Philippians 2:10



After death, souls suffer there for their sins

“You will not come out of it till you pay the last penny” – Matthew 5:26

“Matthean Parallel” (See: Matthew 18:23-35)

“Lazarusian Incident” (See: Luke 16:19-31)

Spirits in prison – 1 Peter 3:18-20; 4:6


The living can extend assistance to such souls


Restrain not grace from the dead – Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 7:37

See: Ruth 1:8

Offerings/Sacrifice for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:38-36

“And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection” (2 Maccabees 12:43, Douay-Rheims Bible).


Fasting for the for the dead

1 Samuel 31:13;

1 Chronicles 10:12

2 Samuel 1:12


Prayer for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:44-46

“It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins” (2 Maccabees 12:46, Douay-Rheims Bible).


See: Nehemiah 1:4-6, cf. Nehemiah 2:5


Understanding Purgatory:


1. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands knowing the nature/attributes of God:

God is Holy (Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Revelations 4:8; Leviticus 11:44

God is Just (1 John 1:9; Revelations 15:3)

God is Merciful (Psalm 116, Lamentations 3:22, Psalm 103:8)

See: Ruth 2:20

God is Love (1 John 4:8, 16)


2. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands a proper understanding of the concept of sin:


Gradation (degrees) of sin

Mortal Sin vs. Venial Sin (1 John 5:16-17)

WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE ONE WIFE BE IT A BISHOP OR A DEACON- 1 TIMOTHY chapter 3

WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE ONE WIFE BE IT A BISHOP OR A DEACON- 1 TIMOTHY chapter 3

Non Catholics just to attack the Catholic Church with their Bishopric and Priests

will not spare the celebacy stand that the Catholic Chruch imposed on the priesthood,

through an ECCLESIASTICAL LAW made by a POPE.

they contend that our BISHOP'S AND PRIEST MUST BE MARRIED according to what the bible said- oh yeah! let us

find out if they understood a very simple verse that only requires a minimum of intelligence -and common sense.


We must put into mind those attacking this gift of GOD to his church do not even
have bishops or priest to talk about-

Billy Graham even commented that God knows who to give this wonderful gift and will receive
it wholeheartedly.

he went further that it drains so much on the coffers of their fellowship providing for
the families of retired Pastors -sending to school their children and providing for the
upkeep of their families.

I remember watching EWTN- THE CONGREGATION OF MOTHER THERESA providing shelter and food
and care to retired , divorced and penniless pastors - what I saw was the old pastor being
hand fed by a sister- he was old and sick- he even apologized for when he was young-he said
too many things against the church that were not even true. Praise God -

"anything you did to the least of my brethren you did it unto me-Matthew 25"

Joel always quotes this- I wonder why? He is not even honest enough to say what fellowship he is
in right now- nor talk about doctrines that they have- he is always in the attack mode saying too many
things and now one by one he is being refuted and still he does not have nor answers any of the questions
that are raised or refutes that we made. I wonder too- if his fellowship does have bishops and priests
what use will you have to raise an issue when you have none of it-

Paul said you cannot give what you do not have-

why compare when you do not have it in you?

So it just boils down to their number one doctrine- as all other Anti-Catholics have as their numero uno
doctrine- validating their existence at the expense of the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Doctrine number one- "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THIS AND THE CATHOLIC IS THAT"- THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IN ALL OF THEM.


TIM STAPLES

a convert to Catholiscm and was an avid anti-Catholic and whose only dream in life was to be a BAPTIST PASTOR

with a wife playing the piano by the side in his chapel, told me- "I began to realize that we were all
HIDING behind the shadow of the Catholic Church" - read this in the book "SURPRISED BY THE TRUTH"

To keep us afloat we had to argue and continously argue against the CATHOLIC CHURCH-
Like Islam- all they ever wanted was the world to recognize prophet Mohammed like JESUS CHRIST who has so much

influenced the world.


1 TIMOTHY 3:1-12 "If someone aspires to the overseer's (bishop) ministry, he is without a doubt looking for a

noble task. It is necessary that the overseer be beyond reproach , "THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE"...........
AND A DEACON MUST BE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE"

THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT IF THEY WERE ORDAINED TO THE POSITION OF BEING A BISHOP OR A DEACON AND THEY ARE
MARRIED. THAT IS THE ONLY WIFE THAT THEY WILL HAVE IN THEIR LIFETIME- IF SHE DIES- THEY CAN NO LONGER RE-MARRY

COMMON SENSE- I AM NOT A BISHOP AND A DEACON- I AM JUST A LAY PRACTICING CATHOLIC. WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
DOES NOT CONCERN ME- DOES IT MEAN I CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE TWO THREE FOUR OR MAYBE MORE WIVES IN MY LIFE????

COMPRENDE JOEL???

NOW VERSE 6 "he must not be a recent convert, lest he become conceited........."

IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

A PRIEST CAN NOT MARRY- WHILE A MARRIED MAN CAN BECOME A PRIEST

There are many converts and clergies of various protestant sects who are married and are now priests
in the Catholic Church- one is FR RUTLER- HE IS GOOD AND HIS PHILISOPHY IS SUPERB.

The condition imposed to these converts is that they too cannot re-marry if they are widowed and they
will never be promoted to the position of a bishop.

Now - there are many many convert of the ANGLICAN CHURCH coming into the Catholic Church now and the VATICAN
had to put up a Department to study and accomodate them.

There are many bishops of the ANGLICAN CHURCH WHO ARE COMING IN TOO- millions of their members the news says.

It is for the POPE NOW TO STUDY THE MATTER ON THE BISHOPS OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH OF ENGLAND.

AFTERALL- HE CAN DO WHATEVER THERE IS TO BIND AND LOOSE- CHRIST GAVE HIS OFFICE THAT AUTHORITY. AMEN

THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS ACCORDING TO NON-CATHOLICS

THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS ACCORDING TO
NON-CATHOLICS- EXCEPT THE EASTERN ORTHODOXY

DID ST. MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS CHRIST HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN IN THE FLESH?

There is not a passage in the bible where it says Mary these are your children

nor a passage that says these are the children of Mary- you must remember that

Jesus was the only Son of Mary


Protestant will say that Joseph never had any relations with Mary until she gave birth to Jesus.

if we were to follow this argument and give a conclusion that the protestant says that Joseph had

sexual relations after Jesus was born.


Then Jesus will not be with us after the end of time-

Jesus said in Matthew 26:20 "FOR I am with you always until the end of the world"

So Jesus will not be with us after the end of time or the world . right Harlan and Joel??



The virgin is with a child and bears a son-
Isa 7:14-

"a son"- here means that the virgin will give birth to a baby boy- not a baby girl

Protestants will say - a son means one of the children-

when Jesus was an adult- here is what the Bible said:
Isnt he "THE SON" and not "a son" of but a carpenter from Nazareth?

"This gate shall be kept shut, No one will open it or go through it ,since the GOD OF ISRAEL has been through it"-

the Lord Jesus Christ will pass through it and be born in the flesh. EZ 44:2


If these men named James, Judas, Simon , and Josph were sons of Mary and brothers of Jesus then they are the
natural sons of Joseph, if their fathers was Joseph, the husband of Mary.


But we can read in the bible that there were only two persons names James.

The first James was the brother of St. John the beloved apostle, both are the sons of ZEBEDEE mAT 10:2

and the other James was the brother of Judas; these men were the sons of Alpheus ang the namw Alpheus in GREEK

IS CLEOPHAS -luke 6:15-16


Another proof based on the bible is that these men named Judas and James who are said to be the brothers of Jesus

were from a different father who is Alpheus and not Joseph.


"On entering the city , they went to the room upstairs where they were staying .

Present there were Peter ,John James Andrew ,Philip , Thomas Bartolimew ,Matthew and James son of Alpheus;

Simon the Zealot and judas, son of James" (Acts 1:13).

And as to Joseph it can be seen clearly as to whos was his mother. It was not Mary who was the mother of Jesus.


Mark the evangelist has this to say," there were also some women watching from a distance; among them were

Mary Magdalene, Mary the Mother of James the younger and Joseph and Salome" Mark 15:40


Let us remember that these women were far from the cross where Jesus was nailed.

While they were going nearer the cross , one can see that there stood Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ,at the

foot of the cross, and this other Mary the aunt of Jesus. "Near the cross of Jesus stood His mother, His mother's

sister Mary, who was the wife of CLEOPHAS, and MARY OF MAGDALENE -jOHN 19:25.


AS it is alredy said from the start that this Mary, who is the sister of the mother of Jesus, is the wife

of CLEOPHAS, which is GREEK term for ALPHEUS who is the father of James, Judas and Joseph.

Now it is clear that these men were just cousins of Jesus.not brothers who are of the same mother and father.

The old testament said that the Jews customarily practiced calling brother those of the nearest kin but not

necessarily brother in the FLESH.

ABRAHAM calls LOT who is his nephew, BROTHER. GEN 29:13-15

ST PAUL CALLS ALL HIS NEAREST RELATIVES AS BROTHERS ROM 9:3



The jews do not have a word for cousins , uncle,auntie, or GRANDFATHER-, only FATHER-AB and MOTHER-ACK

their vocabulary was very limited- that is why they adopted the GREEK writing and reading during the

HELLENISTIC PERIOD-GREEK INFLUENCE ON THEM.

Thus it was unavoidable that during the time of Jesus ,a ll cousins and realtives were also called brothers and
sisters.

And even in the masuretic manuscripts-(HEBREW) WE WILL FIND THAT ABSENCE OF VOWELS AND PUNCTUATIONS.


LUKE NOT A JEW WHO WROTE TO THE GENTILES- had to be specific- HE CALLED THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS

AS HIS "RELATIVES"- but on the subsequent verse we will find because this was in JERUSALEM- A JEW REPLIED

as LUKE quoted him in his gospel- "HERE ARE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS"- which LUKE earlier describes as

"HIS RELATIVES"

WHILE MATTHEW A JEW WROTE IN HIS GOSPEL "the brothers and sisters of JESUS "

bOTH WERE WRITIN ON THAT SIMILAR INCIDENT IN THEIR GOSPELS


Another strong indication that Jesus had not brother in the flesh is that while Jesus was dying on the cross,

he commended his mother to St. John , the youngest apostle, And from that day on John took Mary into his own home

John 19:27, if JESUS had a younger brother why is that Jesus did not turn his Mother over to him and let them go
home because during that time Joseph his foster father was already dead. It was also customary to the Jews by Law

that the second child must take care of his widowed father or mother.


Instead he he left his mother to the care of John the apostle that he loved indicating that Jesus had no brother

nor a sister.

This is a blasphemous attack on the BLESSED VIRGIN MARY TO SAY THAT SHE HAD MANY CHILDREN IN THE FLESH

THUS SAYS THE BIBLE-

Viva Santo Nino!

    Infant Jesus of Prague

 

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Maligayang Kapistahan Mahal na Poong Santo Nino! 

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