anobakasi said...
anu ba yan???? di ata totoo yan kasi hindi naman naghihikaw ang mga tao ni soriano... kasinungalingan iyan!!!!
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Tuesday, December 28, 2010
MGA MIEMBRO NI ELI SORIANO NAGSISINUNGALING KAPAG NA IPIT.
Saturday, June 19, 2010
The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition by Ellen Rice
"The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition," a 1994 BBC/A&E production, will re-air on the History Channel this December 3 at 10 p.m. It is a definite must-see for anyone who wishes to know how historians now evaluate the Spanish Inquisition since the opening of an investigation into the Inquisition's archives. The special includes commentary from historians whose studies verify that the tale of the darkest hour of the Church was greatly fabricated.
In its brief sixty-minute presentation, "The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition" provides only an overview of the origins and debunking of the myths of torture and genocide. The documentary definitely succeeds in leaving the viewer hungry to know more. The long-held beliefs of the audience are sufficiently weakened by the testimony of experts and the expose of the making of the myth.
The Inquisition began in 1480. Spain was beginning a historic reunification of Aragon and Castile. The marriage of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile created a unified Hispania not seen since Roman times. Afraid that laws commanding the exile or conversion of Jews were thwarted by conversos, i.e. synagogue-going "Catholics," Ferdinand and Isabella commissioned an investigation or Inquisition. They began the Inquisition hoping that religious unity would foster political unity, and other heads of state heralded Spain's labors for the advent of a unified Christendom. The documentary clearly and boldly narrates the historical context, which intimates that the Spanish were not acting odd by their contemporary standards.
The Inquisition Myth, which Spaniards call "The Black Legend," did not arise in 1480. It began almost 100 years later, and exactly one year after the Protestant defeat at the Battle of Mühlberg at the hands of Ferdinand's grandson, the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V. In 1567 a fierce propaganda campaign began with the publication of a Protestant leaflet penned by a supposed Inquisition victim named Montanus. This character (Protestant of course) painted Spaniards as barbarians who ravished women and sodomized young boys. The propagandists soon created "hooded fiends" who tortured their victims in horrible devices like the knife-filled Iron Maiden (which never was used in Spain). The BBC/A&E special plainly states a reason for the war of words: the Protestants fought with words because they could not win on the battlefield.
The Inquisition had a secular character, although the crime was heresy. Inquisitors did not have to be clerics, but they did have to be lawyers. The investigation was rule-based and carefully kept in check. And most significantly, historians have declared fraudulent a supposed Inquisition document claiming the genocide of millions of heretics.
What is documented is that 3000 to 5000 people died during the Inquisition's 350 year history. Also documented are the "Acts of Faith," public sentencings of heretics in town squares. But the grand myth of thought control by sinister fiends has been debunked by the archival evidence. The inquisitors enjoyed a powerful position in the towns, but it was one constantly jostled by other power brokers. In the outlying areas, they were understaffed - in those days it was nearly impossible for 1 or 2 inquisitors to cover the thousand-mile territory allotted to each team. In the outlying areas no one cared and no one spoke to them. As the program documents, the 3,000 to 5,000 documented executions of the Inquisition pale in comparison to the 150,000 documented witch burnings elsewhere in Europe over the same centuries.
The approach is purely historical, and therefore does not delve into ecclesial issues surrounding religious freedom. But perhaps this is proper. Because the crime was heresy, the Church is implicated, but the facts show it was a secular event.
One facet of the Black Legend that evaporates under scrutiny in this film is the rumor that Philip II, son of Charles V, killed his son Don Carlos on the advisement of the aging blind Grand Inquisitor. But without a shred of evidence, the legend of Don Carlos has been enshrined in a glorious opera by Verdi.
The special may be disturbing to young children. There are scenes of poor souls burning at the stake, and close-ups of the alleged torture devices. Scenes depicting witches consorting with pot-bellied devils are especially grotesque. For kids, this is the stuff of nightmares.
Discrediting the Black Legend brings up the sticky subject of revisionism. Re-investigating history is only invalid if it puts an agenda ahead of reality. The experts - once true believers in the Inquisition myth - were not out to do a feminist canonization of Isabella or claim that Tomas de Torquemada was a Marxist. Henry Kamen of the Higher Council for Scientific Research in Barcelona said on camera that researching the Inquisition's archives "demolished the previous image all of us (historians) had."
And the future of the Black Legend? For many it may continue to hold more weight than reality. There is the emotional appeal against the Church. The dissenters of today may easily imagine Torquemada's beady eyes as a metaphor of the Church's "dictatorial, controlling, damning" pronouncements. The myth is also the easiest endorsement of the secular state: "de-faith" the state and de-criminalize heresy. Who will be the revisionists in this case? Will the many follow Montanas' lead in rewriting history?
Our 20th century crisis of man playing God - usurping power over conception, life, and death - leaves us with no alternative but to qualify our demythologization of the Inquisition with a reminder: 3,000 to 5,000 victims are 3,000 to 5,000 too many.
http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodic.../article4.html
and more:
As British historian Henry Kamen has shown in his magisterial work, The Spanish Inquisition: A Historical Revision, almost all the conventional wisdom about the Inquisition is wrong. By comparison with secular courts at the time, the Inquisition’s methods were more humane, e.g., defendants could be represented by an attorney. Edward Peters, another student of the period, says, ‘Modern historiography has completely blown the old Inquisition propaganda out of the water. No one seriously contends that hundreds of thousands or millions were killed, or that the Protestant countries were any more humane than Spain was.’ Indeed, scholars today refer to the old school mythology as ‘the Black Legend,’ a tale of lies spun by Elizabethan England. No wonder that in 1994, BBC/A&E aired ‘The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition.’
In its brief sixty-minute presentation, "The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition" provides only an overview of the origins and debunking of the myths of torture and genocide. The documentary definitely succeeds in leaving the viewer hungry to know more. The long-held beliefs of the audience are sufficiently weakened by the testimony of experts and the expose of the making of the myth.
The Inquisition began in 1480. Spain was beginning a historic reunification of Aragon and Castile. The marriage of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile created a unified Hispania not seen since Roman times. Afraid that laws commanding the exile or conversion of Jews were thwarted by conversos, i.e. synagogue-going "Catholics," Ferdinand and Isabella commissioned an investigation or Inquisition. They began the Inquisition hoping that religious unity would foster political unity, and other heads of state heralded Spain's labors for the advent of a unified Christendom. The documentary clearly and boldly narrates the historical context, which intimates that the Spanish were not acting odd by their contemporary standards.
The Inquisition Myth, which Spaniards call "The Black Legend," did not arise in 1480. It began almost 100 years later, and exactly one year after the Protestant defeat at the Battle of Mühlberg at the hands of Ferdinand's grandson, the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V. In 1567 a fierce propaganda campaign began with the publication of a Protestant leaflet penned by a supposed Inquisition victim named Montanus. This character (Protestant of course) painted Spaniards as barbarians who ravished women and sodomized young boys. The propagandists soon created "hooded fiends" who tortured their victims in horrible devices like the knife-filled Iron Maiden (which never was used in Spain). The BBC/A&E special plainly states a reason for the war of words: the Protestants fought with words because they could not win on the battlefield.
The Inquisition had a secular character, although the crime was heresy. Inquisitors did not have to be clerics, but they did have to be lawyers. The investigation was rule-based and carefully kept in check. And most significantly, historians have declared fraudulent a supposed Inquisition document claiming the genocide of millions of heretics.
What is documented is that 3000 to 5000 people died during the Inquisition's 350 year history. Also documented are the "Acts of Faith," public sentencings of heretics in town squares. But the grand myth of thought control by sinister fiends has been debunked by the archival evidence. The inquisitors enjoyed a powerful position in the towns, but it was one constantly jostled by other power brokers. In the outlying areas, they were understaffed - in those days it was nearly impossible for 1 or 2 inquisitors to cover the thousand-mile territory allotted to each team. In the outlying areas no one cared and no one spoke to them. As the program documents, the 3,000 to 5,000 documented executions of the Inquisition pale in comparison to the 150,000 documented witch burnings elsewhere in Europe over the same centuries.
The approach is purely historical, and therefore does not delve into ecclesial issues surrounding religious freedom. But perhaps this is proper. Because the crime was heresy, the Church is implicated, but the facts show it was a secular event.
One facet of the Black Legend that evaporates under scrutiny in this film is the rumor that Philip II, son of Charles V, killed his son Don Carlos on the advisement of the aging blind Grand Inquisitor. But without a shred of evidence, the legend of Don Carlos has been enshrined in a glorious opera by Verdi.
The special may be disturbing to young children. There are scenes of poor souls burning at the stake, and close-ups of the alleged torture devices. Scenes depicting witches consorting with pot-bellied devils are especially grotesque. For kids, this is the stuff of nightmares.
Discrediting the Black Legend brings up the sticky subject of revisionism. Re-investigating history is only invalid if it puts an agenda ahead of reality. The experts - once true believers in the Inquisition myth - were not out to do a feminist canonization of Isabella or claim that Tomas de Torquemada was a Marxist. Henry Kamen of the Higher Council for Scientific Research in Barcelona said on camera that researching the Inquisition's archives "demolished the previous image all of us (historians) had."
And the future of the Black Legend? For many it may continue to hold more weight than reality. There is the emotional appeal against the Church. The dissenters of today may easily imagine Torquemada's beady eyes as a metaphor of the Church's "dictatorial, controlling, damning" pronouncements. The myth is also the easiest endorsement of the secular state: "de-faith" the state and de-criminalize heresy. Who will be the revisionists in this case? Will the many follow Montanas' lead in rewriting history?
Our 20th century crisis of man playing God - usurping power over conception, life, and death - leaves us with no alternative but to qualify our demythologization of the Inquisition with a reminder: 3,000 to 5,000 victims are 3,000 to 5,000 too many.
http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodic.../article4.html
and more:
As British historian Henry Kamen has shown in his magisterial work, The Spanish Inquisition: A Historical Revision, almost all the conventional wisdom about the Inquisition is wrong. By comparison with secular courts at the time, the Inquisition’s methods were more humane, e.g., defendants could be represented by an attorney. Edward Peters, another student of the period, says, ‘Modern historiography has completely blown the old Inquisition propaganda out of the water. No one seriously contends that hundreds of thousands or millions were killed, or that the Protestant countries were any more humane than Spain was.’ Indeed, scholars today refer to the old school mythology as ‘the Black Legend,’ a tale of lies spun by Elizabethan England. No wonder that in 1994, BBC/A&E aired ‘The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition.’
Si Eli Soriano ba ay itiniwalag sa Iglesya ni Nicolas Perez?
Born from a poor family in Pasay City, Philippines, Soriano claim to be an “exceptional, consistently receiving the highest honors… and was awarded the highest possible grade in the entire history of his grade school.”* Unfortunately, he did not finish his secondary schooling due to an alleged “skirmish” with his acting school directress over a topic on religion. Soriano’s follower took this not as a “twist of fate but rather [an alleged] manifestation of God’s work of hand bringing him to his real destiny.”* His parents were members of Iglesia ng Dios Kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan founded in 1936 by a former Iglesia ni Cristo (1914) follower namely Nicolaz Perez. Perez along with Teofila Ora left the I.N.C. fold in 1922 probably after learning that Jesus Christ was Mighty God but “not” the Almighty God and proceeded to establish the Iglesia Verdadero de Cristo. It did not took long for the two former leaders of I.N.C. (1914) to develop discord among themselves. This occurrence drove Perez to register his new group under the name, Iglesia ng Dios Kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan Soriano’s desire to read and memorize the Scripture was prompted by his membership in Perez’ group at a young age of 17 years old. His followers noted of his “zealous [ness] in his religion.”* His skill in “explaining” and remembering the Bible verses was noticed by the other members so that he became “a preacher, a debater and a minister”* of the said group. He was even believed to be a “special confidante of Perez, explaining to him the teachings and the mysteries of the word of God.”* Unknown to many, he was said rumored to be groomed as the successor of Perez after he dies. In 1975 just after Perez’ death, some members were stunned when the leadership was passed on to Levita Gugulan, a woman. At first, Soriano might have yielded to that decision but it did not take long before he along with a few others rebelled against Gugulan’s leadership. They believed that women as leaders in church are not biblically supported. It was reported that in 1976, Soriano and his allies were excommunicated by Gugulan. And the following year (1977), he registered a new group namely,
Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan.
Which later evolved to,
Mga Kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan sa Bansang Pilipinas, Inc. (1990) and Bayan ng Katotohanan (1993).
Most likely because of a lawsuit filed by Gugulan’s group with reference to the “name” of Soriano’s newly founded organization called,
Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan
which is somewhat similar with the former’s group name
“Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan.”
This episode continues to cause confrontation between the two religious groups.
Update 4-Jan-2003: Now since the highest court of the land (the Philippine Supreme Court) ruled, once in for all, in favor of Gugulan's group, the name of Soriano's church was drastrically changed to: "Iglesia Ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH" (Church of YHWH and YHWSA HMSYH).
Update 4-Nov-2004: Now they prefer to be known as, Members Church of God International.
Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan.
Which later evolved to,
Mga Kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan sa Bansang Pilipinas, Inc. (1990) and Bayan ng Katotohanan (1993).
Most likely because of a lawsuit filed by Gugulan’s group with reference to the “name” of Soriano’s newly founded organization called,
Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan
which is somewhat similar with the former’s group name
“Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan.”
This episode continues to cause confrontation between the two religious groups.
Update 4-Jan-2003: Now since the highest court of the land (the Philippine Supreme Court) ruled, once in for all, in favor of Gugulan's group, the name of Soriano's church was drastrically changed to: "Iglesia Ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH" (Church of YHWH and YHWSA HMSYH).
Update 4-Nov-2004: Now they prefer to be known as, Members Church of God International.
ANG PALUSOT NI ELI SORIANO SA JER 6:16
SA JER 6:16 WALANG MABABASANG DATING DAAN AYON NA RIN MISMO SA KATWIRAN NI INGKONG ELI SORIANO NA HINDI NA KAILANGAN DAW IPALIWANAG ANG NAKASULAT KUNDI BABASAHIN NALANG KAYA.
PAULIT-ULIT MO MANG BASAHIN YUNG JER 6:16 WALANG MABABASANG DATING DAAN.
NGAYON SAN MABABASA YUNG DATING DAAN? DITO SA JOB 22:15 NA YUNG DATING DAAN PALA NILAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO.
NGAYON ANO ANG PALUSOT DITO NI SORIANO? YUNG NAGSASALITA DAW DITO MASAMANG TAO KAAWAY NG DIOS NA SI ELIPHAZ KAYA HINDI DAW TOTOO KUNDI PARATANG LANG DAW ITO.
IISA-ISAHIN NATIN NGAYON PARA MALAMAN NATIN ANG KATOTOHANAN.
SA JOB 22:15 PINAYUHAN NI ELIPHAZ ANG KAIBIGAN NYANG SI JOB NA HUWAG MAGPATULOY SA (ADD) DAHIL NILAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO ITOY SALITA HINDI PATUNGKOL SA DIOS KUNDI PATUNGKOL SA MASASAMANG TAO
SA JOB 42:7 NAGALIT BA ANG DIOS KAY ELIPHAZ DAHIL SYA BA AY NAGSALITA NG LABAN SA ADD? HINDI PO! NAGALIT ANG DIOS DAHIL MAY SINABI SYANG HINDI MATUWID PATUNGKOL SA DIOS AT HINDI LABAN SA (ADD) ANG IKINAGALIT NG DIOS KAY ELIPHAZ. BINALUKTOT NI ELI SORIANO PARA MAPALUSOT YUNG KASAMAAN NG ANG DATING DAAN.
TANONG? ANO NAMAN ANG ANG GINAWA NI ELIPHAZ LABAN SA DIOS??
SAGOT: ANG MALING AKALA NYA NA SI JOB AY KASAMA O KASAPI SA ANG DATING DAAN NA NILALAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO.JOB 22:5
KAYA BINTANG NI ELIPHAZ IYAN NA INAKALA NYA MIYEMBRO NA SI JOB NG ANG DATING DAAN KAYA TOTOO NA YUNG DATING DAAN IYON ANG NILALAKARAN NG MGA MASAMANG TAO.
TAMA SI ELIPHAZ DYAN ANG SINASABING MALI NI ELIPHAZ EH YUNG BINTANG AT PARATANG NYA NA AKALA
NYA SI JOB AY MIYEMBRO SA ANG DATING DAAN. IYAN ANG MALI NI ELIPHAZ KASI SI JOB MATUWID KAYA
HINDI SYA MIYEMBRO NG ANG DATING DAAN NA NILALAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO.
SA JOB 1:8 SABI NG DIOS SI JOB PERPECTO, AT UMIIWAS SA KASAMAAN. IYAN ANG SINASABING PAPURI NG DIOS KAY JOB. TAPOS PAGBIBINTANGAN NI ELIPHAZ NA MIYEMBRO NG ANG DATING DAAN NA
NILALAKARAN NG MGA MASASAMANG TAO NA SYANG KINAROROONAN NI ELI SORIANO NA SA SARILI NYA MISMO YUNG ANG DATING DAAN TAPOS BIGLANG KAMBYO MAGIGING PALIKONG DAAN NARIN KAYO.
SABI NI ELI SORIANO MALI DAW SI ELIPAHAZ KAYA HINDI NA DAW DAPAT PANIWALAAN.
HINDI LAHAT NG SINABI NI ELIPHAZ AY MALI. ANG MALI LANG NYA YUNG BINTANG NYA KAY JOB. NA AKALA NYA MYEMBRO SI JOB SA DATING DAAN NA NILAKARAN NG MASAMANG TAO. PERO TAMA NA YUNG DATING DAAN NILAKARAN NGAYON NG MASASAMANG TAO NA SYANG KINAROROONAN NG MGA ADD NGAYON.
SA JOB 22:21-22 ITO NAMAN ANG SABI NI ELIPHAZ NA DAPAT AY KILALANIN ANG DIOS, AT ANG MGA UTOS NG DIOS AT DAPAT ILAGAK SA PUSO ANG MGA SALITA NG PANGINOON ( MALI DAW ITO AYON SA ADD KASI SI ELIPHAZ ANG MAY SABI)
THEREFORE KUNG MALI! MASAMA ANG PAGKILALA NILA SA DIOS AT PAGTANGGAP SA KANYANG MGA UTOS, AT PAGLAGAY NG SALITA NG PANGINOON SA ATING MGA PUSO KASI SABI NG MGA ADD MALI SI ELIPHAZ.
NGAYON SA JER 6:16 LALAPAT KAYA ITO SA MGA PALIKONG DAAN NI SORIANO? TINGNAN NATIN KUNG KAKAMPI SA KANYA ANG TALATANG ITO NA JER 6:16.
SA JER 6: 16,,, MAYROONG SINASABING DATING LANDAS NA DOON SA DATING LANDAS NA YAN NANDODOON
ANG MABUTING DAAN. NA KUNG SAAN TAYO DAPAT NA MAGSILAKAD PARA MASUMPUNGAN NATIN NG KAPAHINGHAHAN NG ATING KALULUWA.
TUMUTUKOY ITO SA DAAN NA PINAKA UNA O YUNG DATI NA NA LANDAS NA KUNG SUNDAN NATIN ANG
PAKAHULUGAN NI SORIANO SURIIN NATIN KUNG LALAPAT NGA BA SA KANILA ITO. SAMAKATWID ANO BA YUNG PINAKAUNANG SAMAHAN NG PANANAMPALATAYA SA KASAYSAYAN NG MGA LINGKOD NG DIOS?
1. ANG PINAKA UNA AY YUNG TINATAWAG NATIN NA PATRIARCHAL RELIGION NA KINABIBILANGAN NG MGA
NINUNO NA SILA ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB, JOB.
2.PANGALAWA YUNG JUDAICAL RELIGION NA KINABIBILANGAN NAMAN NILA NI MOSES, LEVI, AARON AT MGA PROPETA.
3.ANG IKATLO ANG TINATAWAG NA CHRISTIAN RELIGION, KAYA NASA HEB 1:1-2 NA ANG DIOS AY
NAGSALITA SA IBAT-IBANG PANAHON SA ATING MGA MAGULANG UNA YUNG ANG TIME NG PATRIARCHAL
RELIGION, PANGALAWA SA IBAT-IBANG PARAAN SA PAMAMAGITAN NG MGA PROPETA IYUN ANG TIME NG JUDAICAL RELIGION SA PANAHON NILA MOSES AT MGA PROPETA,
YUNG IKATLO SA PAMAMAGITAN NG KANYANG ANAK AY NAGSALITA SA MGA HULING ARAW NA ITO SA
PAMAMAGITAN NG KANYANG ANAK ITO YUNG TIME NA NG KRISTYANISMO.
YAN DIN ANG KATUPARAN SA ZACARIAS 13:8-9 NA DALAWANG BAHAGI AY MAHIHIWALAY AT MAMATAY ITO.
YUNG PATRIARCHAL RELIGION AT JUDIACAL RELIGION PERO ANG WIKA MAHIHIWALAY AT MAMATAY IBIG
SABIHIN MAWAWALA NA PERO YUNG IKATLO DAW ANYA, SILAY DADALISAYIN PARANG PAGSUBOK SA GINTO
ITO NA YUNG CHRISTIAN RELIGION. ITO NA YUNG RELIHIYON SA MODERNONG PANAHON YUNG ITINAYO NI
KRISTO.
NGAYON BALIKAN NATIN YUNG JER 6:16 SA MODERNONG PANAHON KUNG ITANONG NATIN YUNG PINAKA UNA O
DATING RELIHIYON O DAAN DAHIL NASA GAWA 24:14 YUNG DAAN NA TINATAWAG NA SEKTA SO YUNG SEKTA NA ITINAYO NI KRISTO THAT IS THE RELIGION FOUNDED BY GOD IN MODERN TIMES KUNG ITANONG NATIN KUNG SINO ANG PINAKA DATI O PINAKA UNA O DATING DAAN SA PALIWANAG NI SORIANO AY WALANG IBA
KUNDI ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA.
ITO YUNG PATUNAY SA 1JUAN 5:9 TINATANGGAP DAW YUNG PATOTO NG TAO EH ASAN YUNG PATOTO NG TAO EH DI
SA KASAYSAYAN, ITO SA ,
WORLD HISTORY BY WEBSTER p. 211, WORLD HISTORY by Obrien p. 138, Groiler encyclopedia Vol.
5. 106 Enternational Encyclopedia Vol 15. p. 520 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOUNDED BY JESUS.
VS.
ANG DATING DAAN CHURCH OF GOD INTERNATIONAL INCORPORADA PTY.LTD founded by. Eli SorianO
1980 NAPAKA KENGKOY NAMAN NYAN NAUNA PA YUNG SAN MIGUEL BEER SA INYO 1890 MGA BALIW LANG AT
MGA TANGA-TANGA LANG MANINIWALA SA INYO MGA HIBANG NA YATA KAYO TAPOS MAKIKIPAG KUMPITENSYA
KAYO SA IGLESIA KATOLIKA NA ITINATAG NG DIOS WALA KAYONG MAGAGAWA KC ANG DIOS SUMASA AMIN
HEB 13:6, AWIT 118:6, KAYA NASA MAT 12:30 ANG HINDI SUMASA AKIN AY NAGSASAMBULAT KAYA KAYO
PANG-ILANG KULTO NA KAYO MULA NG ITATAG NI ELI SORIANO YUNG IGLESIA NYA? KATUPARAN YAN NAG
SASAMBULAT O NAGKALAT NA KAYO.
PARA MAGING MAKATOTOHANAN NAMAN KAYO AY PAG ARALAN NINYO ANG KASAYSAYAN PARA HINDI KAYO MALOKO NI INGKONG.
PAULIT-ULIT MO MANG BASAHIN YUNG JER 6:16 WALANG MABABASANG DATING DAAN.
NGAYON SAN MABABASA YUNG DATING DAAN? DITO SA JOB 22:15 NA YUNG DATING DAAN PALA NILAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO.
NGAYON ANO ANG PALUSOT DITO NI SORIANO? YUNG NAGSASALITA DAW DITO MASAMANG TAO KAAWAY NG DIOS NA SI ELIPHAZ KAYA HINDI DAW TOTOO KUNDI PARATANG LANG DAW ITO.
IISA-ISAHIN NATIN NGAYON PARA MALAMAN NATIN ANG KATOTOHANAN.
SA JOB 22:15 PINAYUHAN NI ELIPHAZ ANG KAIBIGAN NYANG SI JOB NA HUWAG MAGPATULOY SA (ADD) DAHIL NILAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO ITOY SALITA HINDI PATUNGKOL SA DIOS KUNDI PATUNGKOL SA MASASAMANG TAO
SA JOB 42:7 NAGALIT BA ANG DIOS KAY ELIPHAZ DAHIL SYA BA AY NAGSALITA NG LABAN SA ADD? HINDI PO! NAGALIT ANG DIOS DAHIL MAY SINABI SYANG HINDI MATUWID PATUNGKOL SA DIOS AT HINDI LABAN SA (ADD) ANG IKINAGALIT NG DIOS KAY ELIPHAZ. BINALUKTOT NI ELI SORIANO PARA MAPALUSOT YUNG KASAMAAN NG ANG DATING DAAN.
TANONG? ANO NAMAN ANG ANG GINAWA NI ELIPHAZ LABAN SA DIOS??
SAGOT: ANG MALING AKALA NYA NA SI JOB AY KASAMA O KASAPI SA ANG DATING DAAN NA NILALAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO.JOB 22:5
KAYA BINTANG NI ELIPHAZ IYAN NA INAKALA NYA MIYEMBRO NA SI JOB NG ANG DATING DAAN KAYA TOTOO NA YUNG DATING DAAN IYON ANG NILALAKARAN NG MGA MASAMANG TAO.
TAMA SI ELIPHAZ DYAN ANG SINASABING MALI NI ELIPHAZ EH YUNG BINTANG AT PARATANG NYA NA AKALA
NYA SI JOB AY MIYEMBRO SA ANG DATING DAAN. IYAN ANG MALI NI ELIPHAZ KASI SI JOB MATUWID KAYA
HINDI SYA MIYEMBRO NG ANG DATING DAAN NA NILALAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO.
SA JOB 1:8 SABI NG DIOS SI JOB PERPECTO, AT UMIIWAS SA KASAMAAN. IYAN ANG SINASABING PAPURI NG DIOS KAY JOB. TAPOS PAGBIBINTANGAN NI ELIPHAZ NA MIYEMBRO NG ANG DATING DAAN NA
NILALAKARAN NG MGA MASASAMANG TAO NA SYANG KINAROROONAN NI ELI SORIANO NA SA SARILI NYA MISMO YUNG ANG DATING DAAN TAPOS BIGLANG KAMBYO MAGIGING PALIKONG DAAN NARIN KAYO.
SABI NI ELI SORIANO MALI DAW SI ELIPAHAZ KAYA HINDI NA DAW DAPAT PANIWALAAN.
HINDI LAHAT NG SINABI NI ELIPHAZ AY MALI. ANG MALI LANG NYA YUNG BINTANG NYA KAY JOB. NA AKALA NYA MYEMBRO SI JOB SA DATING DAAN NA NILAKARAN NG MASAMANG TAO. PERO TAMA NA YUNG DATING DAAN NILAKARAN NGAYON NG MASASAMANG TAO NA SYANG KINAROROONAN NG MGA ADD NGAYON.
SA JOB 22:21-22 ITO NAMAN ANG SABI NI ELIPHAZ NA DAPAT AY KILALANIN ANG DIOS, AT ANG MGA UTOS NG DIOS AT DAPAT ILAGAK SA PUSO ANG MGA SALITA NG PANGINOON ( MALI DAW ITO AYON SA ADD KASI SI ELIPHAZ ANG MAY SABI)
THEREFORE KUNG MALI! MASAMA ANG PAGKILALA NILA SA DIOS AT PAGTANGGAP SA KANYANG MGA UTOS, AT PAGLAGAY NG SALITA NG PANGINOON SA ATING MGA PUSO KASI SABI NG MGA ADD MALI SI ELIPHAZ.
NGAYON SA JER 6:16 LALAPAT KAYA ITO SA MGA PALIKONG DAAN NI SORIANO? TINGNAN NATIN KUNG KAKAMPI SA KANYA ANG TALATANG ITO NA JER 6:16.
SA JER 6: 16,,, MAYROONG SINASABING DATING LANDAS NA DOON SA DATING LANDAS NA YAN NANDODOON
ANG MABUTING DAAN. NA KUNG SAAN TAYO DAPAT NA MAGSILAKAD PARA MASUMPUNGAN NATIN NG KAPAHINGHAHAN NG ATING KALULUWA.
TUMUTUKOY ITO SA DAAN NA PINAKA UNA O YUNG DATI NA NA LANDAS NA KUNG SUNDAN NATIN ANG
PAKAHULUGAN NI SORIANO SURIIN NATIN KUNG LALAPAT NGA BA SA KANILA ITO. SAMAKATWID ANO BA YUNG PINAKAUNANG SAMAHAN NG PANANAMPALATAYA SA KASAYSAYAN NG MGA LINGKOD NG DIOS?
1. ANG PINAKA UNA AY YUNG TINATAWAG NATIN NA PATRIARCHAL RELIGION NA KINABIBILANGAN NG MGA
NINUNO NA SILA ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB, JOB.
2.PANGALAWA YUNG JUDAICAL RELIGION NA KINABIBILANGAN NAMAN NILA NI MOSES, LEVI, AARON AT MGA PROPETA.
3.ANG IKATLO ANG TINATAWAG NA CHRISTIAN RELIGION, KAYA NASA HEB 1:1-2 NA ANG DIOS AY
NAGSALITA SA IBAT-IBANG PANAHON SA ATING MGA MAGULANG UNA YUNG ANG TIME NG PATRIARCHAL
RELIGION, PANGALAWA SA IBAT-IBANG PARAAN SA PAMAMAGITAN NG MGA PROPETA IYUN ANG TIME NG JUDAICAL RELIGION SA PANAHON NILA MOSES AT MGA PROPETA,
YUNG IKATLO SA PAMAMAGITAN NG KANYANG ANAK AY NAGSALITA SA MGA HULING ARAW NA ITO SA
PAMAMAGITAN NG KANYANG ANAK ITO YUNG TIME NA NG KRISTYANISMO.
YAN DIN ANG KATUPARAN SA ZACARIAS 13:8-9 NA DALAWANG BAHAGI AY MAHIHIWALAY AT MAMATAY ITO.
YUNG PATRIARCHAL RELIGION AT JUDIACAL RELIGION PERO ANG WIKA MAHIHIWALAY AT MAMATAY IBIG
SABIHIN MAWAWALA NA PERO YUNG IKATLO DAW ANYA, SILAY DADALISAYIN PARANG PAGSUBOK SA GINTO
ITO NA YUNG CHRISTIAN RELIGION. ITO NA YUNG RELIHIYON SA MODERNONG PANAHON YUNG ITINAYO NI
KRISTO.
NGAYON BALIKAN NATIN YUNG JER 6:16 SA MODERNONG PANAHON KUNG ITANONG NATIN YUNG PINAKA UNA O
DATING RELIHIYON O DAAN DAHIL NASA GAWA 24:14 YUNG DAAN NA TINATAWAG NA SEKTA SO YUNG SEKTA NA ITINAYO NI KRISTO THAT IS THE RELIGION FOUNDED BY GOD IN MODERN TIMES KUNG ITANONG NATIN KUNG SINO ANG PINAKA DATI O PINAKA UNA O DATING DAAN SA PALIWANAG NI SORIANO AY WALANG IBA
KUNDI ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA.
ITO YUNG PATUNAY SA 1JUAN 5:9 TINATANGGAP DAW YUNG PATOTO NG TAO EH ASAN YUNG PATOTO NG TAO EH DI
SA KASAYSAYAN, ITO SA ,
WORLD HISTORY BY WEBSTER p. 211, WORLD HISTORY by Obrien p. 138, Groiler encyclopedia Vol.
5. 106 Enternational Encyclopedia Vol 15. p. 520 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOUNDED BY JESUS.
VS.
ANG DATING DAAN CHURCH OF GOD INTERNATIONAL INCORPORADA PTY.LTD founded by. Eli SorianO
1980 NAPAKA KENGKOY NAMAN NYAN NAUNA PA YUNG SAN MIGUEL BEER SA INYO 1890 MGA BALIW LANG AT
MGA TANGA-TANGA LANG MANINIWALA SA INYO MGA HIBANG NA YATA KAYO TAPOS MAKIKIPAG KUMPITENSYA
KAYO SA IGLESIA KATOLIKA NA ITINATAG NG DIOS WALA KAYONG MAGAGAWA KC ANG DIOS SUMASA AMIN
HEB 13:6, AWIT 118:6, KAYA NASA MAT 12:30 ANG HINDI SUMASA AKIN AY NAGSASAMBULAT KAYA KAYO
PANG-ILANG KULTO NA KAYO MULA NG ITATAG NI ELI SORIANO YUNG IGLESIA NYA? KATUPARAN YAN NAG
SASAMBULAT O NAGKALAT NA KAYO.
PARA MAGING MAKATOTOHANAN NAMAN KAYO AY PAG ARALAN NINYO ANG KASAYSAYAN PARA HINDI KAYO MALOKO NI INGKONG.
Friday, May 28, 2010
Saturday, May 22, 2010
Pentecost Sunday - Cycle C 2010
Pentecost Video from Sharefaith on Vimeo.
The word Pentecost comes from the Ancient Greek “pentekoste” which literally means the fiftieth day. It commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the disciples of Jesus.
credit: Fr. Stephen Cuyos MSC
Sunday, April 11, 2010
Feast Of The Divine Mercy
Our Lord's Mercy grants forgiveness of all sins and punishment on Feast of Divine Mercy, Mercy Sunday, mercy for even the most hardened sinners!
Read the Homily of His Holiness John Paul II during the canonization of Sr Mary Faustina Kowalska. Go here..
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
SC upholds suspension of ‘Ang Dating Daan’
MANILA, Philippines—The Supreme Court upheld a three-month suspension imposed on the religious television program, “Ang Dating Daan,” back in 2004 for the use of offensive and obscene language by its evangelist-host Eliseo “Brother Eli” Soriano.
In a full court decision issued on March 15, the high tribunal ruled with finality against Soriano's motion for reconsideration, affirming its original ruling last April 29, 2009 in favor of the Movie and Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB)'s disciplinary action against Ang Dating Daan.
Voting 11-4, the Supreme Court rejected Soriano's argument that the suspension imposed by the MTRCB constituted “prior restraint” on the media and that his language during the show's August 10, 2004 broadcast was not obscene and offensive.
The high court reminded Soriano that “the medium he used to make his statements was a television broadcast which is accessible to children of virtually all ages.”
“As already laid down in the decision subject of this recourse, the interest of the government in protecting children who may be subjected to petitioner’s invectives must have precedence over his desire to air publicly his dirty laundry,” the court went on, pointing out that Soriano's use of vulgar language was not appropriate for a program with a “G” or for general audience rating.
The high court also rejected Soriano's claim that the court should stay out of cases of conflict between religious groups.
It said even religious programs were covered by the MTRCB's regulatory power.
The Supreme Court said the exercise of religious freedom could be regulated by the state “when it will bring about the clear and present danger of some substantive evil which the state is duty bound to prevent.”
The MTRCB took action against Ang Dating Daan based on a complaint filed by the religious group Iglesia ni Cristo led by Michael Sandoval, INC minister and host of television program, “Ang Tamang Daan.”
Sandoval complained that Soriano slandered him in Ang Dating Daan by calling him names.
Soriano countered that the INC implied in their show that he was asking for an extravagantly huge amount of contributions.
Those who concurred with the decision penned by Associate Justice Presbitero Velasco Jr. were Associate Justices Renato Corona, Antonio Nachura, Teresita Leonardo-De Castro, Arturo Brion, Diosdado Peralta, Lucas Bersamin, Mariano Del Castillo, Martin Villarama Jr., Jose Perez and Jose Mendoza.
Chief Justice Reynato Puno and Associate Justices Antonio Carpio, Conchita Carpio-Morales and Roberto Abad dissented.
In his separate opinion, Carpio insisted that the show's suspension “indiscriminately infringes upon free speech.” Citing a landmark case in the United States, he said while Soriano’s utterances might be indecent he still enjoyed the constitutional protection for free speech.
In a full court decision issued on March 15, the high tribunal ruled with finality against Soriano's motion for reconsideration, affirming its original ruling last April 29, 2009 in favor of the Movie and Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB)'s disciplinary action against Ang Dating Daan.
Voting 11-4, the Supreme Court rejected Soriano's argument that the suspension imposed by the MTRCB constituted “prior restraint” on the media and that his language during the show's August 10, 2004 broadcast was not obscene and offensive.
The high court reminded Soriano that “the medium he used to make his statements was a television broadcast which is accessible to children of virtually all ages.”
“As already laid down in the decision subject of this recourse, the interest of the government in protecting children who may be subjected to petitioner’s invectives must have precedence over his desire to air publicly his dirty laundry,” the court went on, pointing out that Soriano's use of vulgar language was not appropriate for a program with a “G” or for general audience rating.
The high court also rejected Soriano's claim that the court should stay out of cases of conflict between religious groups.
It said even religious programs were covered by the MTRCB's regulatory power.
The Supreme Court said the exercise of religious freedom could be regulated by the state “when it will bring about the clear and present danger of some substantive evil which the state is duty bound to prevent.”
The MTRCB took action against Ang Dating Daan based on a complaint filed by the religious group Iglesia ni Cristo led by Michael Sandoval, INC minister and host of television program, “Ang Tamang Daan.”
Sandoval complained that Soriano slandered him in Ang Dating Daan by calling him names.
Soriano countered that the INC implied in their show that he was asking for an extravagantly huge amount of contributions.
Those who concurred with the decision penned by Associate Justice Presbitero Velasco Jr. were Associate Justices Renato Corona, Antonio Nachura, Teresita Leonardo-De Castro, Arturo Brion, Diosdado Peralta, Lucas Bersamin, Mariano Del Castillo, Martin Villarama Jr., Jose Perez and Jose Mendoza.
Chief Justice Reynato Puno and Associate Justices Antonio Carpio, Conchita Carpio-Morales and Roberto Abad dissented.
In his separate opinion, Carpio insisted that the show's suspension “indiscriminately infringes upon free speech.” Citing a landmark case in the United States, he said while Soriano’s utterances might be indecent he still enjoyed the constitutional protection for free speech.
Monday, February 15, 2010
THE CRUSADES, PLEASE ALSO READ THE CATHOLIC STORY
Please read JOSHUA, begining chapter one- and proceed until you find
the Jews being settled in the land that God gave them, it was not easy
picking for the Jews, they had to fight their way to settle on this land.
Strange as it may seem, you will read that God gave intructions to kill
all and get no prisoners. That means women and children too.
There was this one general who violated God's instructions he took prisoners to have them as slaves and God struck him.
Why? God wanted the land purified of pagans- the Jews who were purified
in the Desert for more than 40years , were a new generation of Jews from
those who originally left Egypt. And these pagans who knew and have heard
of God's awesome miracles in Egypt, the parting of the sea and the miracles
God perfromed in the desert, still worship their invented Gods and refused
to heed the God of the Jews.
The CRUSADES, PLEASE ALSO READ THE CATHOLIC STORY, the Catholic church
wrote his own history and no one else- that is from her own point of view.
Just type the crusades and there many you can choose from. And there is one from the Catholic Encyclopedia.
You only printed their side of the story as narrated by this muslim author.
This is only one scenario against hundredths of thousand scenarios of the war to reclaim the Holy Land.
Yes there were brutalities and abuses that occurred,some crusaders fell to the temptation of treasures wine and women. This was not the purpose of why the crusades were conducted.
It had a noble idea on the onset but fell to corruption along the way.
There were good points and bad points - let us leave it to God -afterall
they are all dead and has faced the almighty God in Judgement.
I want you to read both sides of it which I did ,because when I was born
again way back in 1978 , the pastors would always snipe with stories like this you posted.
I started with THE INQUISITIONS, PAPAL, ROMAN AND SPANISH- it was an eye straining exercise and the battles that the Europeans fought against the mighty conquering Ott-Man Empire who wanted to conquer Europe and convert it to Islam. They were always massacered because God will not give his people to them.
You should read the battle of Lepanto - how miraculously the virgin saved
the whole of Europe from a huge Islamic Armada outnumbering the Europeans
3 to 1 on Warships, the battle of Hapzburg in Belgium- a hundred thousand
muslims against less than two thousand Catholics who were able to repulse
the OTTO-MANS.
And how Romania under Vlad Tepes (Romania now Orthodox and not in communion
with the Pope) a Romanian Prince was helped by Rome to repulse an imminent
muslim invasion.
How did he do it? He went to a smaller war and captured 20,000 muslims
and he skewered them to the stakes and left them out to bleed and lined them up along the hi-way. The General of the great horde of the main invasion force saw the brutality of this Romanian Prince so he did not bother to invade Romania anymore. They left and went home.
Vlad Tepes was also known as DRACUL "THE IMPALER" - THIS WAS WERE THE STORY
OF DRACULA CAME FROM- THANKS TO THIS FERTILE MINDED BRITISH STORY WRITER AND HE CREATED A STORY WHICH HAS NOW EVOLVED INTO HI-TECH VAMPIRE MOVIES.
Vlad Tepes is a national Hero of Romania- His castles is a tourist site.
It is sometimes featured on horror movies to give color to Vampire Movies.
THE INQUISTION OF SPAIN- Spain was under seige - muslim spies disguised
themselves as Christians were now occupying positions in the MONARCHY OF
QUEEN ISABELA and KING FERDINAND. And surprisingly they were being aided
by the Jews. They were in cahoots. Spain originally was dominated by the MOORS.
Read the Story of El Cid the national hero of Spain- how the 25percent
Catholics of Spain were able to drive out the moors and made it a Christian
Country. Alhambra is a Spanish Speaking province of Spain - but the religion is Islam. Have you noticed Spanish Architecture and Islamic
Architecture are somewhat similar?
Queen Isabela financed the voyage of Ferdinand Magellan to cross the Pacific Ocean- a perilous voyage - He discovered my country, the PHILIPPINES- that is why I am a Christian.
Islam was just at our backdoor the southern part of my country.
Or else my name would have been Abdul or Rashid probably and we would
be debating not as Christians by now but Islam vs Christianity.
Had Europe buckled in to the mighty OTTO-MAN onslaught - America would have
been muslim today.
Now I can not put history into this short writing- it is too tedious.
Oh - about Constantinople- Now Istanbul, the Catholic Church and the Monarchs of Europe were extending their hands to the BYZANTINES -EASTERN
ORTHODOX- help them fight the muslim invaders. But because of pride
they refused and their reason was that their walls were enough and it can
withstand the canons of the OTTOMANS.
The Sultan was having bigger ones made- and it breached the walls and they
fell. And the rest of Turkey fell to the OTTOMAN EMPIRE.
Ephesus now Izmir- also fell. The churches founded by St. Paul and all of Turkey are now Islamic. The Cathedral of St.John the apostles is now
a shrine and he is buried near his Cathedral- Mama Mary went into dormition
in this Place under the care of John. You should see that place and you will notice the altar where John the Apostles was celebrating mass and
baptizing babies too. It is now a shrine granted by the TURKISH GOVERNMENT
because it is written and recorded in their history , the famous visit of
St. Francis of Assisi who was originally planned by his father to be a crusader to the HOLY LAND to earn honor for their family,in Florence italy,
They were the richest in that Place and Francis gave all of these up and lived in rugs and spoiled food and founded one of the biggest Priestly Ordeer in the Catholic Church. He was a STIGMATA. HE HAD THE FIVE WOUNDS OF
JESUS CHRIST.
The sultan was awed at the miracles that God made through Francis.
He said the God of Francis was greater than his God. Francis was sent
home with many many gifts needed by the poor that the order was taking care
of. Read his story too.
Now what I would like you to do so that you will be fair with yourself
and not us is to get the real story and not the stories that has been
spun out of proportions.
What you have been fed I am sorry to tell you are fantastic lies.
WE have the internet right now- and you are lucky. Way back I had to spend
long hours in libraries and bought expensive books some coming from the USA.
THE UNITED STATES THE POLICE OF THE WHOLE WORLD- THEY GIVE THEIR YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOOD LIVES IN THEIR COUNTRY, AND SOME ARE BROUGHT HOME
IN BODY BAGS-
IN ALMOST ALL THE CATASTROPHIES , WAR , STRIFE ETC ETC THE UNITED STATES
LEADS ALL OTHER NATIONS TO HELP. AND YET THEY ARE NOT EVEN THANKED BUT
SPIT UPON BY THE ONE BEING HELPED.
SADLY THERE ARE SOME SOLDIERS WHO DESTROY THE IMAGE OF THIS WEALTHY BEAUTIFUL AND PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY WHICH GOD HAS PROVIDED SO MUCH TO PROTECT
THE FREE WORLD.
THEY COMMITED THE SAME BRUTALITY AS YOU HAVE PICTURED. THESE ARE THE REALITIES OF WAR JASMINE- THEY WERE COMMITTED BY AN INDIVIDUAL DECISION.
MY TEACHER IN HIGH SCHOOL AN AMERICAN JESUIT PRIEST TAUGHT US THIS STORY NOT PUBLISHED OR MADE A CURRICULUM IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I STUDIED IN A PRIVATE SCHOOL RUN BY THIS ORDER.
BEFORE SPAIN GAVE UP THIS COUNTRY THE PHILIPPINES - THE AMERICANS WERE
SCOUTING THE STRENGTH OF THE SPANIARDS IN MY COUNTRY.
THEY WENT TO A CENTRAL PROVINCE AND LANDED THERE. IN THE PROCESS AN AMERICAN SCOUT WAS KILLED BY A LOCAL. THE AMERICANS RETALIATED
BY ANNIHILATING THE WHOLE VILLAGE- SEVERAL THOUSANDS DIED.
THERE WAS SO MUCH BRUTALITY- THEY EVEN THREW BABIES IN THE AIR
AND MET THEM WITH BIONETS. THIS IS KNOWN BY THE NAME OF THAT VILLAGE
THE BALANGUIGA MASSACERE- THE EVDIDENCE?
GO TO FORT APACHE- THE HOME OF YOUR SUPER HI-TECH HELICOPTERS
THERE ARE TWIN BELLS DISPLAYED- A RELIC AND OUR TREASURE
EMBOSSED ON THOSE BELLS ARE THE NAME OF THAT TOWN-
SHOULD I SAY MORE JASMINE-
OH WHEN YOU READ THE WHOLE OF IT- TELL ME HOW YOU FELT
AGAINST THIS PEOPLE WHO MISGUIDED YOU FROM THE TRUTH.
YOU KNOW I WAS EVEN MADE TO BELIEVE THAT OUR POPES WERE
BRUTAL POPES- THEY WERE PICTURED AS EXECUTIONERS
HALF WAY OF WHAT I READ- I FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE CHOPPING BOARDS
OF THE MONARCHS- OR PUNCHING BAGS. ALL THE WAY THEY WERE HELPLESS
AGAINST TYRANT MONARCHS OF EUROPE. ONE POPE HAD TO SEEK REFUGE IN
FRANCE AND IT BECAME A PAPAL SEAT FOR QUITE A TIME- BECAUSE
ITALY WAS WRACKED IN POLITICAL TURMOIL BECAUSE OF WARRING FAMILIES.
BUT NOT OF THEM BUCKLED DOWN.
THOMAS BECKET IN ENGLAND DID NOT BUCKLE DOWN HE WAS CHOPPED TO PIECES
IN FRONT OF THE ALTAR.
SHAKESPEAR A COVERT CATHOLIC I THINK MADE A PLAY OUT THIS , AND I THINK
IT WAS SOMERSET- THAT FAMOUS PLAY
AFTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR- THE WITNESSES WHO CONNIVED WITH HITLER
DURING THE WAR - CAME OUT AND TALKED TO MUCH AS IF THEY WERE HEROES
DURING THE WAR- THEY DID THIS AND THEY DID THAT.
AUSHWICH (CORRECT MY SPELLING PLEASE) - AND DACHAU THE EXTERMINATING
CAMPS OF HITLER KILLED 25,000 OF OUR PRIESTS AND NUNS MOSTLY FROM POLAND.
READ EUGENIO OF ITALY- HE WAS THE CHIEF RABBI OF THE SYNAGOGUE IN ROME WHEN POPE PIUS 12TH WAS POPE AND HE WITNESSED HOW HALF A MILLION JEWS WERE SAVED BY THIS POPE WHO SPENT ALL HIS INHERITANCE BECAUSE THIS POPE CAME FROM A ROYAL FAMILY.
THIS RABBI CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY AND TOOK ON THE NAME OF EUGENIO-
THE REAL NAME OF THAT POPE.
THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU JASMINE
Thursday, February 11, 2010
THE STORY OF ANANIAS AND SAFFIRA - THIS STORY REFUTES PROTESTANT CLAIMS
THE ONE SAVED ALWAYS SAVE
AND THOSE WHO CLAIM THEY ARE SAVED BY FAITH
THE FRAUD OF ANANIAS AND SAFFIRA ACTS CHAPTER 5: 1 TO 11
background story of these couple who were struck dead by the HOLY SPIRIT
THE Sanhedrin was making life difficult for the christian Jews in Jerusalem
Judea and Samaria.
The Christians helped out each other and some even sold their properties
to help those who were really struck hard by this persecution.
Ananias and Saffira sold their property though it was not obligatory for
them.
Ananias put aside some of the proceeds for himself and conived with his wife Saffira to report a lesser amount and the rest he turned
over to the Apostles.
In other words they lied to Peter who at that time was filled with the Holy Spirit .
And Peter said Act 5:4 "YOU HAVE DECEIVED NOT MEN BUT GOD"
Both Ananias and Saffira were struck dead by the HOLY SPIRIT AND THEY WERE
BURIED THAT SAME DAY.
THE COUPLE NEVER LOST THEIR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST.
THEY WERE A PERSONAL WITNESS TO JESUS CHRIST - PERHAPS TO SOME OF HIS.
TEACHINGS AND PERHAPS HAVE SEEN SOME OF HIS MIRACLES.
PERHAPS THEY HAVE SEEN THE ACTUAL CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS CHRIST.
THEY WERE TAUGHT BY THE APOSTLES THEMSELVES.
BUT THEY WERE STRUCK DEAD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR THEY CHOSE TO LIE
THIS SIMPLE STORY AFFIRMS WHAT PAUL SAYS-
THERE IS NO ASSURANCE - WE MUST PERSEVERE TO THE VERY END
WE MUST WORK OUT OUR FAITH IN FEAR AND TREMBLING
ANINIAS AND SAFFIRA NEVER LOST THEIR FAITH- THEY SINNED AND CHOSE TO LIE
NOW WHAT SAY YOU - TO THOSE WHO PREACH THAT BY FAITH WE ARE SAVED!
TO THOSE WHO PREACH THAT JESUS SAVED US ON THE CROSS-
TO THOSE WHO SAY THAT THERE IS NO HELL
JUDAS WAS A CLEAR EXAMPLE - WHO WAS CONDEMNED TO HELL
IN THE LAST SUPPER - JESUS TOLD JUDAS TO BE GONE AND DO WHAT HE MUST
AND IMMEDIATELY SATAN ENTERED HIS SOUL.
WHY JOSEPH CAN NOT ENTER INTO MARY- HE MIGHT DIE- MAYBE
BECAUSE GOD MADE MARY HOLY- EVEN BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME
"ke CHARITOMENE"- HAIL! FULL OF GRACE OR REJOICE! HIGHLY FAVORED ONE"
TYPOLOGIES- GEN 3:15 -THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD, THE ARK OF THE COVENANT, THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM, AND MARY-
DAVID AND ELIZABETH
GENESIS 3:15 - "
"I shall make you enemies, you and the woman, your offspring
and her offspring. He will crush your head and you will strike his heal."
the crushing of satan's head Paul's letter to the persecuted Christians of
Rome.
ROMANS 16:20 "the God of peace will soon crush satan and place him under
your feet"
THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD
WHERE GOD MET MOSES AND THE LAW WAS GIVEN TO HIM- IT WAS DECLARED SACRED
GROUND BY GOD - DEATH TO THOSE WHO GO BEYOND THE COMMAND OF GOD FOR HE MADE
THE PLACE HOLY
EXODUS 3:5 "YAHWEH SAID TO MOSES" do not come near take off your sandals
because the place where you are standing is HOLY GROUND.
EXODUS 19:12 TAKE CARE NOT TO GO UP TO THE MOUNTAIN OR TOUCH ITS BASE ,
WHOEVER TOUCHES THE MOUNTAIN WLL DIE
VERSE 13 NO HAND SHALL TOUCH HIM BUT HE WILL BE STONED OR SHOT DOWN BY
ARROWS
THE INNER PLACE OF THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM
SIMILARLY- THE INNER PLACE OF TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM COVERED BY A THICK
CURTAIN IS ONLY ENTERED BY THE HIGH PRIEST ON THE TENTH DAY ON THE MONTH
OF TISHRI OUR SEPTEMBER -THAT IS THE DAY OF ATONEMENT OF SINS OR
YOM KIPPUR-
ZECHARIAH THE HIGH PRIEST AND FATHER OF JOHN THE BAPTIST ENTERED IT SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE ANGEL GABRIEL APPEARED TO HIS NIECE -MARY THE MOTHER OF
JESUS
THE HIGH PRIEST BEFORE ENTERING THE INNER PLACE WHERE THE "SHEKINAH GLORY"
OR "THE GLORY OF GOD OR PRESENCE" IS VISIBLE-
THE HIGH PRIEST MUST THOROUGHLY CLEANSE HIMSELF BY OFFERING A SACRIFICE TO
GOD FOR HIS OWN CLEANSING- FAILURE TO CLEANSE WELL ENOUGH RESULT IN HIS DEATH
INSIDE THE INNER PLACE- HE IS TIED TO THE WAIST IN ENTERING THAT INNER
PLACE AND PULLED OUT IF THEY SENSE HE IS DEAD
THE ARK OF THE COVENANT
Hebrews 9:4 "...., and the ARK OF THE COVENANT, FULLY COVERED WITH GOLD,
the Ark cointained a golden jar holding the manna, Aarons rod that had
sprouted leaves and the two slabs of the covenant"
MANNA - the bread that came down from HEAVEN for the Jews to eat through
their exodus on the desert.John 6:31
Jesus is the living bread that came down from Heaven- John 6:35
Jesus said he who eats this bread and he who believes in him will have
eternal life.
AARONS ROD- the symbol of his priesthood- notice the rod is alive it had
grown leaves- the priesthood will live and shall not be abolished.
Jesus is the HIGH PRIEST OF THE NEW COVENANT IN THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK,
the Levitical line of Mary from AARON and David's priesthood as KING OF THE DAVIDIC KINGDOM AND Jesus THE KING OF THE DAVIDIC KINGDOM WILL LAST FOREVER joined together in the NEW COVENANT Jesus made and sealed it with his blood on the cross.
He ordained his APOSTLES as the first priests of this covenant during the
last supper and HE WASHED THEIR FEET AND INSTITUTED THE SACRAMENT OF THE
EUCHARIST WITH THE WORDS "DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME"
THE SLABS OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS- Jesus the second person of the HOLY
TRINITY -the GODHEAD -is GOD and GOD IS THE LAW!!
THE ARK OF THE COVENANT VISITS DAVID 2 SAMUEL CHAPTER 6
2 sam 6:2-3 - THE ARK OF THE COVENANT WAS BROUGHT BY DAVID WITH THIRTY
THOUSAND MEN TO JERUSALEM AND PLACED IT ON A NEW CART PULLED BY OXEN.
verse 6 - the oxen stumbled and UZZAH streched out his hand to prevent
the ARK from falling off the cart.
verse 7 - YAHWEH'S ANGER BURNT AGAINST UZZAH AND GOD STRUCK HIM THERE,
UZZAH DIED THERE BESIDE THE ARK OF GOD.
VERSE 9 -"David was afraid of Yahweh that day and said:
"HOW CAN THE ARK OF YAHWEH COME TO ME ?"
Verse 10- "YAHWEH'S ARK WAS BROUGHT TO THE HOUSE OF OBEDEDOM THE HITITE
verse 11- "YAHWEH'S ARK REMAINED THERE FOR THREE MONTHS AND GOD BLESSED THE
HOUSE OF OBEDEDOM AND ALL HIS HOUSEHOLD"
verse 14 "David whirled around dancing with all his heart for
Yahweh,wearing a linen ephod"
MARY VISITS ELIZABETH - LUKE CHAPTER ONE
LUKE CHAPTER ONE
verse 39 -Mary set out for a town in the hills of Judah
verse 40- she entered the house of ZECARIAH and she greeted Elizabeth.
verse 41- when Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leapt in her womb,
Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.
verse 42- giving a loud cry she said "you are MOST BLESSED AMONG WOMEN
AND BLESSED IS THE FRUIT OF YOUR WOMB"
verse 43- "HOW IS IT THAT THE MOTHER OF MY LORD COMES TO VISIT ME?"
ADONAI-MY GOD, or MY LORD, THE SUBSTITUTED WORD THAT THE JEWS WOULD USE IN
PLACE OF YAHWEH
they were forbidden to use the name of GOD-YAHWEH in the book of Jeremiah
HOW IS IT THAT THE MOTHER OF MY GOD COMES TO VISIT ME?"
there you are MARY IS THE MOTHER OF GOD. THE BIBLE SAYS
verse 49- "the mighty one has done great things for me-HOLY IS HIS NAME"
VERSE 56- "MARY REMAINED WITH ELIZABETH FOR THREE MONTHS THEN SHE RETURNED
HOME
THE BOOK OF REVELATION
John wrote-REVELATION CHAPTER 4
verse 1 -"After this I looked up to the wall of the sky and saw an open
door, the voice which I had first heard speaking to me, like a trumpet
said come up here and I will show you what you will see in the future,"
CHAPTER 11:19 THEN THE SANCTUARY OF GOD WAS OPENED AND THE ARK OF THE
COVENANT OF GOD COULD BE SEEN INSIDE THE SANCTUARY, THERE WERE FLASHES OF
LIGHTNING, PEALS OF THUNDER AN EARTHQUAKE AND A VIOLENT HAILSTORM.
CHAPTER 12:1 "A GREAT SIGN APPEARED IN HEAVEN A WOMAN CLOTHES WITH THE SUN
WITH THE MOON UNDER HER FEET AND A CROWN OF TWELVE STARS ON HER HEAD
verse 2 SHE WAS PREGNANT AND CRIED OUT IN PAIN LOOKING TO HER TIME OF
DELIVERY
verse 3 THEN ANOTHER SIGN APPEARED: a huge red dragon with seven heads and
ten horns wearing seven crowns on its heads,
VERSE 4 it had swept along a third of the stars of heaven with its tail
throwing them down to the earth. the dragon stood in front of the woman
who was about to give birth, so that it might devour the child as soon as
it was born,
verse 5 she gave birth to a male child, the one who is to rule all the
nations with an iron scepter, then her child was seized and taken up to GOD
and to his throne
Matthew 1:18"....Mary the mother of Jesus had been given to Joseph who was found to be pregnant "THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT"
mATTHEW 1:20- "the ANGEL appeared to Joseph in a dream and said-"Joseph descendant of David DO NOT BE AFRAID TO TAKE MARY AS YOUR WIFE"...."
JESUS SAID
mATTHEW 12: 32 "HE WHO SPEAKS AGAINST THE SON OF MAN WILL BE FORGIVEN BUT
HE WHO SPEAKS AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN, EITHER IN THIS
AGE OR IN THE AGE TO COME.
ISA 7:14- "the virgin is with child and bears a son......"
"THIS GATE WILL BE KEPT SHUT, NO ONE WILL OPEN IT OR GO THROUGH IT, SINCE THE GOD OF ISRAEL HAS BEEN THROUGH IT, AND SO IT MUST BE KEPT SHUT"
EZEKIEL 44:2
MARY IS SACRED GROUND- AND JOSEPH KNEW THAT- HE MIGHT DIE
TO OUR SEPARATED BRETHREN - SHE IS NO TOUCH
PERPETUALLY VIRGIN
Tuesday, February 9, 2010
WHY MARY IS HOLY GROUND
"so she gave birth to a son and he had not had relations with her. Joseph gave him the name Jesus"
TO the JEWS -YESHUA- means -GOD SAVES- JOSEPH NOW KNEW WHO MARY WAS CONCEIVING
BUT I DID NOT INSIST ON IT- I PLAYED YOUR COURT THE KING JAMES VERSION
LATER ON I WILL GO TO THE GREEK
WHO IS JOSEPH and MARY?
MATTHEW 1:18
This is how Jesus Christ was born. Mary his mother had been given to Joseph in marriage but before they lived together, she was found to be pregnant...
"THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT"-.....I WILL REPEAT THROUGH "THE HOLY SPIRIT"
(the protestant world treat the pregnancy of Mary
as just an ordinary pregnancy as if the holy spirit can just impregnate any woman in this planet, let alone any woman can just give birth to a JESUS CHRIST, why? because it is CATHOLIC AND ANY CATHOLIC BELIEF THEY STAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD- SO TO SPEAK)
.....then Joseph her husband made plans to divorce her in all secrecy.
HE WAS AN UPRIGHT MAN, and in no way did he want to discredit her.....
WHY IN SECRET?- the secret was.. that MARY WAS PREGNANT BECAUSE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT !!!!! who would ever believe a simple country lass a virgin being
pregnant because of the HOLY SPIRIT. THE WHOLE OF ISRAEL MIGHT BE LAUGHING AT YOU IF YOU SAY THIS.
PUT THIS IN THAT BRAIN OF YOURS HARLAN
and JOSEPH being an upright man married MARY so that the HARSH MOSAIC LAW
will not be imposed on Mary. She will be stoned to death.
MARY the niece of ZECARIAH - the high priest who six months ago just went in to the INNER TEMPLE only done ONCE A YEAR DURING THE FEAST OF THE DAY OF ATONEMENT- OFFERING SACRIFICE FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL IN ATONEMENT for THEIR SINS- AND to the HIGH PRIESTS OF ISRAEL-they draw lots on who will enter this INNER SANCTUM to make an offering- this is a risky undertaking for a HIGH PRIEST who has not cleansed himself well enough might end up dead. That is why they are tied to their waste so in case he dies - he will be pulled out.
Now Mary who is pregnant and unmarried will be scandalized so much not only in Jerusalem but maybe to the whole nation of Israel being the niece of
the HIGH PRIEST of THE TEMPLE- YOU CAN NOW IMAGINE THE BIG SHAME AND SCANDAL TO THE WHOLE CLAN OF THE HIGH PRIEST ZECARIAH the father of JOHN THE baptist. The jews will be after the stoning of Mary.
the levitical line of MARY- IS "ANAWIM" - THEY ARE JEWS WHO LIVE RIGHTEOUS
AND STRICTLY OBESERVES THE LAW OF MOSES -in other words it is a PURIFIED GROUP in the LEVITICAL TRIBE-
AND GOD CHOSE THE MOTHER OF JESUS from this group.
why was Joseph contemplating to divorce Mary and in no way to discredit her?
Because of fear!!!
Joseph new that MARY now belongs to GOD ALREADY- being pregnant because of
the overshadowing of the HOLY SPIRIT - SHE WAS GOD'S PROPERTY
SHE BECAME THE SPOUSE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT- SHE WAS SACRED GROUND.
and that MARY'S womb has the FIRSTBORNE- THE FIRST TO LEAVE THE WOMB
the JEWS HAD A HIGH REGARD FOR THE FIRSTBORN OF ANY WOMB- READ IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT ABOUT THE FIRSTBORN-
WHEN GOD SETTLED ON MOUNT SINAI TO MEET WITH MOSES AND ON THAT MOUNTAIN
GOD CARVED WITH HIS FINGERS SO TO SPEAK THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ON THE ROCK AND GAVE THE LAWS ON HOW THE JEWS WILL LIVE AND HIS MIGHTY NAME- AND A COVENANT- HE DECLARED THAT MOUNTAIN A SACRED GROUND.
A PRERIMETER WAS EVEN ESTABLISHED AND THOSE WHO VIOLATES THIS PERIMETER WILL DIE- AND INSTRUCTED MOSES TO EVEN TAKE OUT HIS SANDALS.
JOSEPH NEW WHAT BELONGS TO GOD BELONGS TO GOD. DID YOU GET THIS HARLAN
JOSEPH WILL NOT EVEN THINK OF WHAT HARLAN IS ALWAYS THINKING. THAT IS SEX!!
BEFORE JOSEPH WENT TO HIS PLAN OF DIVORCING MARY THINKING THAT HE WAS RIGHT.
BECAUSE MARY IS NOT ORDINARY ANYMORE FOR SHE BELONGS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT- ON
THE OTHER HAND KNOWING THE SCRIPTURES
JOSEPH NEW THAT GOD HATES DIVORCE
THE ANGEL APPEARED TO JOSEPH AND THIS IS WHAT THE ANGEL SAID
MATTHEW 1:20
"JOSEPH DESCENDANT OF DAVID "DO NOT BE AFRAID TO TAKE MARY AS YOUR WIFE
SHE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT "
verse 21 "AND WILL BEAR A SON WHOM YOU ARE TO CALL JESUS ( GOD SAVES) FOR HE WILL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS"
THAT WAS THE FEAR HARLAN -
THAT IS WHY JOSEPH DID NOT ENTER INTO MARY AND NEVER DID
HE WAS A RIGHTEOUS MAN- NOT LIKE YOU- YOU ONLY SAY IT AND I DONT BELIEVE IT- EVER
BUT YOU HAD NO FEAR IN YOUR THOUGHTS HARLAN THAT IS WHY I NEVER BELIEVED YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE YOU KEEP ON THINKING ABOUT MUNDANE THINGS IN YOUR MIND.
YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE JESUS OH HOW YOU DECLARE THIS IN ALL YOUR POSTINGS- BUT YOU NEVER TREATED EVERYTHING IN JESUS AS SACRED-
EVERYTHING IN JESUS IS SACRED HARLAN- HIS MOTHER AND HIS FOSTER FATHER JOSEPH GIVE RESPECT WHERE RESPECT IS DUE.
S WILL RECOGNIZE YOU FOR THAT
HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF YOUR FRIEND TREATS YOUR OWN MOTHER COMING INTO
YOU HOUSE AS IF HE SEES YOUR MOTHER A FIXTURE IN YOUR HOUSE.
ONCE AGAIN I WILL REPEAT WHAT YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED
-YOU DID NOT REFUTE ANY OF THE BROTHERS OF JESUS THAT I IDENTIFIED WHO THEIR
FATHERS ARE AND NOT JOSEPH THE HUSBAND OF MARY- YOU SAY THE BIBLE IS NOT
THAT DEEP- BUT YOU WENT TOO DEEP WITH YOUR OPINIONS AND CONCLUSIONS
-HOW ABOUT JESUS WILL NOT BE WITH US ANYMORE AND HE WILL NOT BE
WITH US AFTER THE END OF TIME- WHERE IS MY ANSWER USING YOUR ARGUMENT
TO THE VERSE- NONE- YOU PICKED AND CHOOSE AGAIN
-WHAT ARE THE NAMES OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS- AGAIN YOU SAID
THE BIBLE IS NOT THAT DEEP- BUT YOU WERE DEEP IN YOUR OPINIONS
-WHO ARE LIVING PEOPLE THAT CAN BE IDENTIFIED TODAY COMING FROM THE LINE
OF JESUS CHRIST? NO ONE HAS EVER COME UP TO CLAIM THAT JESUS WAS HIS
GRAND DAD.
-WHERE ARE HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS DURING THE TIME OF CRUCIFIXION -WHY DID
JESUS LEAVE HIS MOTHER TO JOHN?? again YOU GAVE NO ANSWER
AND ALL ALONG YOU ANCHORED YOUR ARGUMENT ON JUST ONE WORD - "UNTIL"
"UNTIL" YOU CAN BACK UP YOUR CLAIM THAT JESUS HAD BIOLOGICAL BROTHERS AND SISTERS- YOU WILL COME OUT TO BE A STORY TELLER OF ALL TIMES
REMEMBER THE NUN THAT YOU SAID YOU ARE TRYING TO CONVERT - YOU COULD STARTED WITH THE POPE SO WE CAN EASILY VERIFY
"UNTIL" YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOUND REASONS AND LOGICAL AT THAT
"UNTIL" THEN I WILL BELIEVE YOU
HERE IS ONE BIG ADVISE- GO TO A CREDIBLE BIBLE TEACHER OR COLLEGE-
ESPECIALLY ONE THAT CAN TEACH BIBLICAL HISTORY
THAT HAS HERMENEUTICS AND CAN EXPLAIN THE EXEGIES OF WHAT THE AUTHOR WROTE
IN PLAIN READING YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AUTHOR TRYING TO SAY.
THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED EXEGIES- KNOW THIS FIRST
PERSONAL CONVICTIONS WILL TAKE YOU NOWHERE AND STILL END UP WITH NOTHING.
Sunday, February 7, 2010
Totoo nga bang ang pag luhod sa rebulto ng mga katoliko ay pagsamba sa rebulto mismo?
Biblia ang sasagot
Sagot:Mayroon lingkod ng Dios na nanalangin higit pa sa pag
LUHOD KUNDI NAGPATIRAPA pa!
Ano ang ginawa ni Josue? hinawak ang kanyang damit at nagpatira sa harap ng kaban ng Tipan Josue 7:6
anu yung nasa Kaban?
1Hari 8:7 Larawan ng Kerubin na ginawang upuan ng Dios
1Sam 4:4,So the people sent to Shiloh, that they might bring from thence the ark of the covenant of the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth between the cherubims: and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were there with the ark of the covenant of God.
1Kro 13:6 And David went up, and all Israel, to Baalah, that is, to Kirjathjearim, which belonged to Judah, to bring up thence the ark of God the LORD, that dwelleth between the cherubim, whose name is called on it.
at doon sya makikipagkita mula sa Larawan ng 2 Keruben
Exod 25:22, Dahil sa kerubin ka haharap hindi yung TITINGALA KA SA LANGIT kundi ang Harapan ng Dios ay ang Larawan ng Kerubin
2Hari19:15.Hezekiah prayed before the Lord: “Lord God of Israel, who is enthroned on the cherubs!
napakalinaw nyan Richard malinaw pa sa sikat ng Araw kung di kayo tulog sa katotohanan.
Rom 11:8.Ayon sa nasusulat, Binigyan sila ng Dios ng Espiritu ng pagkakatulog, ng mga matang hindi nangakakakita, at ng mga pakinig na hindi nangakakarinig, hanggang sa araw na ito.
Nasa inyo na iyan kung bubuksan ninyo ang inyong isip tungkol sa mga bagay na iyan basta ako sinasagot ko lang ang tanong nyo nasa sa inyo na iyan kung maniniwala kayo o hindi.
ITO PA! SA PAG LUHOD ULI!
BASA:
Tanong; eh, bakit nyo niluluhuran diba ang pagluhod ay pagsamba?
Sago:Hindi po lahat ng pag luhod ay pag samba.
Awit 95:5. KANYA RIN ANG DAGAT AT PATI RIN ANG LUPA NA KANYANG NILALALNG
Hindi lahat ng pagkakataon na ang pagluhod o yukod o patirapa ay pagsamba, ano ang sinasabi ng biblia?
Gen 23:7-8 si Abraham lumuhod bilang pakikiusap hindi pagsamba,
1Sam 24:8 Yumokod sa lupa si David hindi upang sumamba kundi NAGBIGAY GALANG.
1Sam 28:14 si Saul yumokod sa lupa at nagbigay GALANG hindi sumamba.
2 Sam 1:2 nagpatirapa kay David at nagbigay GALANG hindi parin pagsamba.
Gawa 16:29 Bantay ng bilanggo nagpatirapa kay Apostol Pablo hindi upang SUMAMBA kundi bunga ng pagkatakot.
Gawa 9:40 lumuhod sa bangkay si A.Pablo at nanalangin sya pero hindi sa Bangkay kundi sa Diyos pero humarap sa bangkay.
Ester 3:2 nagsiyukod at nagsigalang.
1Hari 1:47 Ang Hari ay Yumukod sa kanyang Higaan pero di Sumamba sa kanyang Higaan
2Hari 20:2 Humarap sa ding-ding si Haring Ezequias at nanalangin- pero hindi sinamba ang ding-ding.
IYAN HA HUMARAP SA DING DING PERO HINDI SUMAMBA SA PADER MALINAW NA HINDI PORKET NAKAHARAP KA SA ISANG BAGAY AT NANALANGIN KA AY SUMAMBA KANA SA BAGAY NA IYON.
ITO NAMAN TUMAYO hindi lumuhod ha pero SUMAMBA nakatayo
Exod 33:10. And all the people saw the cloud at the door of the Tent, and they went down on their faces, everyone at the door of his tent.
Ito naman Lumuhod hindi para sumamba kundi upang uminom ng tubig
Hukom7:6. Ang sumalok ng tubig upang uminom ay 300 at yaong iba lamang ay LUMUHOD upang uminom.
ito naman Yumokod hindi parin para SUMaMBA kundi upang manganak
1 Sam 4:19. Kagampan noon ang asawa ni finees. Nang malaman nyang nakuha ang kaban ng Diyos at patay ang kanyang biyenan, at napatay ang kanyang asawa siyay naglupasay at napa anak ng di oras.
Nakita nyo na mga INC, mga ADD itinuro ba yan sa inyo ni Eduardo Manalo at Eli Soriano?
Hindi!
kasi Binulag kayo.
Rom 11:8 Ayon sa nasusulat, Binigyan sila ng Dios ng Espiritu ng pagkakatulog, ng mga matang hindi nangakakakita, at ng mga pakinig na hindi nangakakarinig, hanggang sa araw na ito.
na dilang sinungaling
Kaw 11:9, Ang labi ng walang Diyos sa iba ay panira, ngunit ang dunong ng matuwid ay nagliligtas ng kapwa.
Jer 9:8 Parang makamandag na pana ang kanilang dila, pawang pandaraya ang kanilang sinasabi. Sa kanilang kapway magandang mangusap, ngunit ang totoo'y binibitag nila ito.
kaya ang mga pandinig nyo gaya nang Binging Ahas
Awit 58:4.Makamandag manding ahas ang kaparis animo ay kobrang ang tainga'y may takip
kaya hindi nyo matutunan ang tamang unawa sa Biblia tungkol sa larawan. So paano ba yan may sagot pala sa biblia ang inaakala nyong walang sagot. Kayo ang magpapasya kung sasaliksikin ninyo ang katotohan.
Mga INC at ADD tutulan nyo ito!
Saturday, February 6, 2010
MAY BUKAS PA FINALE THEME SONG
We will miss you Santino, we will always remember the moral lessons that we learned from May Bukas Pa. Bro is always with us...
Thursday, February 4, 2010
REBULTO DIOS DIOSAN NGA BA?
I WOULD SUGGEST YOU READ MORE
OH SURE WE KNOW HOW TO READ REINEE AND WE WILL NOW TELL YOU THAT READING
MUST BE INVESTIGATIVE AND MUST BE GUIDED IN CASE YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS A BIT IMPAIRED - BECAUSE LEANING ON ONES OWN UNDERSTANDING WITH THIS DEFECT WILL LEAD YOU TO PERDITION
GOD SAID "WHAT I HAVE SAID WILL NOT RETURN TO ME EMPTY AND VOID"
DID GOD CONTRADICT HIMSELF WHEN HE COMMANDED THE JEWS NOT TO MAKE IDOLS IN THE FORM OF ANYTHING -ABOVE HIM -BELOW HIM AND EVEN UNDER HIM
LET US FIND OUT-HOW REINEE UNDERSTANDS THE SCRIPTURES WITH HIS PERSISTENCE AND HIS ACCUSATIONS THAT CATHOLICS ARE WORSHIPING ACCORDING TO HIM IDOLS
COMMON OBJECTION OF NON CATHOLICS
IT IS VERY CLEAR IN THE BIBLE WHICH SAYS "therefore do not become corrupted; do not make an idol or a god carved in the form of a man or a woman"
DUET 4:16 "YOU SHALL NOT BOW DOWN TO THEM OR SERVE THEM. For I YAHWEH, YOUR God am a jealous God .... Exodus 20:5, I am Yahweh that is my name, I will not give Glory to another or my praise to graven images- Isa 42.8
Here it is very clear that God prohibits the carving of images in the form of man and woman. what God allows to be carved are those of cherubim or angels not images of Man Ex 25:18-19 , BUT GOD NEVER RECOMMENDED THOSE IMAGES TO BE WORSHIPPED
CATHOLIC ANSWER
Is the text used from Deut 4:16 that God prohibits the making of any images of man or woman, a prohibition without any condition? Or the prohibition means that the images shall not be thought of as God?
NOW READ THIS REINEE -
Because if you will say that the making of images be it man or woman is really prohibited without any condition then ....
HE COMMANDED MOSES TO MAKE IMAGES OF ANGELS OR CHERUBIMS. IF THESE ARE REPRESENTED BY IMAGES AS ALLOWED BY YAHWEH, THESE ARE IMAGES OF MEN BUT WITH WINGS AND CREATURES FROM ABOVE. SINCE THE ANGELS APPEARED BEFORE LOT WERE IN THE FORM OF MEN WHO WERE MASCULINE GEN 19:1,5-8
ALSO INSIDE THE TEMPLE OF GOD OR THE HOUSE OF GOD - WHICH JESUS SAID
"MY FATHER'S HOUSE"
I WILL DESCRIBE TO YOU THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM THAT EVEN JESUS DID NOT
REBUKE WITH THESE IMAGES AND EVEN CALLED IT "HIS FATHERS HOUSE"
2 CHRONICLES 3:7 "ON THE WALLS SOLOMON HAD CARVED CHERUBIMS
3:10 - IN THE HOLLIES OF HOLLIES - HE MADE TWO CHERUBIMS OF METAL AND PLATED THEM WITH GOLD
1 KING 6:29 "SOLOMON HAD ALL THE WALLS CARVED WITH CHERUBIMS , PALM TREES
AND FLOWERS
1 king 6:27 THE CHERUBIM OF THE HOLY OF HOLIES AND THEIR WINGS SO SPREAD APART THAT THEY TOUCHED BOTH WALLS
EZEKIEL 41:17-19 "from the foor to the inner part of the house, and right
around the whole wall of the inner room outside and inside , were carved
cherubims and palm trees, palm trees and cherubims alternating each, each
cherubims had two faces, the face of a man turned towards the palm tree on
one side and the face of a lion toward the palm tree on the other, all
around the house. the cherubims and palm trees were carved from the floor
to above the entrance, as also from the wall of the hall.
THIS IS THE WAY THE TEMPLE OF GOD IS DESCRIBED IN THE BIBLE FULL OF
CARVED, CHERUBIMS TREES A FACE OF A MAN AND A LION.
DAVID WAS THE FATHER OF SOLOMON WAS GIVEN THE NAME THE LION OF JUDAH
AND JESUS CALLED IT "HIS FATHER'S HOUSE" -
HIS FATHERS HOUSE WITH CARVED IMAGES? HARLAN SAID THE TEMPLE OF GOD HAS NO ROOM FOR IDOLS?
IT IS NOW CLEAR THAT IF ALL IMAGES REPRESENT FALSE GODS, THEN GOD IS THE
FIRST ONE WHO VIOLATED HIS COMMAND WHEN HE COMMANDED MOSES TO CARVE IMAGES
OF ANGELS EXO 25:18-19 AND THE IMAGE OF FIERY SERPENT NUMBER 21:8
BUT AS WE ALREADy KNOW , GOD CANNOT COMMIT ANY FAULT.
THEREFORE IT IS THE MISINTERPRETATON OF REINEE AND HARLAN WHICH LED THEM
TO ERR IN SAYING THAT ALL IMAGES REPRESENT FALSE GODS. THE SCRIPTURES
TEACHES US WHAT ARE FALSE GODS ARE:
FOR WE KNOW AN IDOL IS WITHOUT EXISTENCE. I WILL REPEAT THIS ONE
FOR THE BENEFIT OF REINEE AND HARLAN
1 COR 8:4 "can we, then, eat from offering to the idols? WE KNOW THAT
The glory and praise of God can never be given to these idols which represent nothing and which are non existent and never existed but only a creation of ones imagination.
Isaiah 44:13-20 - this man cut down a three sculpted an image which he made his GOD out of his own imagination- and made the image he created - and asked the carved image to rescue him for that very image which does not have any existence at all but a product of his very OWN imagination HE MADE A god out of it.
Our image of Jesus Christ cannot represent the invisible and the incomprehensible God. But the incarnation of the Son of God and who lived
with us HAS USHERED IN A NEW ECONOMY OF IMAGES.
PREVIOUSLY GOD, WHO HAS NEITHER A BODY NOR A FACE. ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT BE
REPRESENTED BY AN IMAGE, BUT NOW THAT HE HAS MADE HIMSELF IN THE FLESH AND HAS LIVED WITH MEN. MEN CAN NOW MAKE AN IMAGE OF WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN OF GOD
AND CONTEMPLATE TO THE GLORY OF THE LORD, HIS FACE UNVEILED.
1 COL 1:15 "CHRIST IS THE IMAGE OF THE UNSEEN GOD"
JESUS HAD BROTHERS AND SISTERS BECAUSE OF THE WORD "UNTIL" HARLAN SAID
1. WHERE WERE THEY WHEN HE WAS CRUCIFIED - THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO BE
THERE- WHY DID JESUS LEAVE HIS MOTHER TO JOHN THE APOSTLE
2. ALL THE SUPPOSED BROTHERS OF JESUS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE
WERE IDENTIFIED AND THEIR FATHERS TOO WERE IDENTIFIED- AND IT WAS NOT JOSEPH THE SPOUSE of MARY - THE MOTHER OF JESUS
3. WHAT WERE THE NAMES OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS - THE GOSPEL WRITER DID NOT EVEN GIVE A NAME TO ANY OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS-
4. TODATE NOT A SINGEL LINE COMING FROM THESE ALLEGED BROTHERS AND SISTERS
HAS COME UP NOR HAS ANYONE CLAIMED THAT HE IS A DESCENDANT OF JESUS CHRIST.
NOR WITH ANY OF THE APOSTLES.
NOW HARLAN INSISTS THAT JESUS HAD BROTHERS AND SISTERS JUST TO
SATISFY HIS OWN PERSONAL CONVICTION THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS WRONG.
HE CAN NOT EVEN GIVE A NAME OF HIS FELLOWSHIP NOR SAY WHAT THE DOCTRINES
OF HIS FELLOWSHIP ARE- HE IS TRYING TO PROVE HIS FELLOWSHIP IS THE RIGHT
CHURCH BY PROVING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WRONG.
THIS IS TYPICAL
BECAUSE HARLAN HAS ANCHORED HIS BELIEF THAT JESUS HAD BROTHERS AND SISTERS
ON JUST ONE WORD- "UNTIL"
HE CLAIMS THAT I HAVE BEEN TWISTING THE SCRIPTURES BUT COULD NOT SAY
WHAT I TWISTED.
I HAVE ASKED HIM SEVERAL TIMES WHAT I TWISTED AND HE COULD NOT MENTION EVEN ONE. ALWAYS A BLANK ACCUSATION- AND HE DOES IT MOST OF THE TIME
I ASKED HIM SEVERAL TIMES IF HIS ARGUMENT WILL ONLY BE ANCHORED ON A SINGLE
WORD "UNTIL"- WHICH IS INCONCLUSIVE-
BECAUSE HARLAN IS ALWAYS FOND OF INSISTING HIS OWN OPINION AND PUTTING A
CONCLUSION WHERE THERE IS NONE
BECAUSE HIS CONTENTION IS THAT - IT WAS AFTER THE BIRTH OF JESUS THAT MARY
AND JOSEPH HAD RELATIONS- BECAUSE OF THE WORD "UNTIL"
THEN I ASKED HIM HOW THEN WILL HE INTERPRET THE FOLLOWING VERSES
"I WILL BE WITH YOU UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD" does this mean that after the end of the world Jesus will no longer be with us??
"MICAH THE DAUGHTER OF SAUL DID NOT GIVE BIRTH UNTIL SHE DIES"- does this mean that after she dies she was able to give birth?
I ALSO GAVE ONE WHICH WAS THE RAVEN THAT NOAH SENT OUT TO SCOUT FOR A DRY LAND-
ON BOTH QUERYS HARLAN DID NOT GIVE AN ANSWER BUT KEEPS ON INSISTING HIS
UNTIL OF THE VERSE OF LUKE- THAT MARY AND JOSEPH HAD RELATIONS AFTER JESUS
WAS BORN BECAUSE OF THE WORD UNTIL-
correction : this should be read and not what is posted
MICAH THE DAUGHTER OF SAUL DID NOT GIVE BIRTH UNTIL SHE DIED, does this mean that after she died she was able to give birth to a child?
HARLAN BRAGG:
((Teewee said: MICAH THE DAUGHTER OF SAUL DID NOT GIVE BIRTH UNTIL SHE DIED, does this mean that after she died she was able to give birth to a child?))
My reply: David was Dancing before the Lord in front of the people and she came out ad insulted him.
2SA 6:20 When David returned home to bless his household, Michal daughter of Saul came out to meet him and said, "How the king of Israel has distinguished himself today, disrobing in the sight of the slave girls of his servants as any vulgar fellow would!"
Because of this she would bare no children she insulted her husband because David was her husband. Besides David seed with Bathsheba would become the new King.
2SA 6:23 And Michal daughter of Saul had no children to the day of her death.
Doesn't say until just says she had no children.
Nice try tho!
God Bless!
ERICA ERICSSON :
Hi, Harlan. what teewee is trying to point out was that the word "until" meant, according to the writers of the nt with the choice of word they use, that nothing happened afterwards. it just continue to be as it was before.
if "until" means the same until we use in english that means after the appointed time something will definitely happen. but that is not the case.
Teewee gave the example of Michal. "did not give birth 'until' she died". if we understand the word using today's meaning, it means she give birth after she died. she did not give birth after she died. it is because the true meaning of the word "until" ,as used by the biblical writers, is that nothing will happen later on. the state of the person or things will forever be the same yesterday, today, and forever.
Jesus said, "I will be with you 'until' the end of time". it does not mean that when the end comes he will no longer be with us. it means, as was, as is and as will be Jesus will always be with us. the word 'until' meant a continuation, nothing ever changes since the past, the present, up to the future - forever.
Matthew 1:25
But he had no union with her "until" she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
the meaning is the same here. Joseph never had union with Mama Mary before, during her pregnancy and after the birth of Jesus.
that is the true meaning of the word as used by these writers. if we give other meaning to the word "until" then we are not faithful to the scripture. if we take things so literally then the scripture will lose its purpose.
HARLAN BRAGG:
Yes but it doesn't say until Erica it says: 2SA 6:23 And Michal daughter of Saul had no children to the day of her death.
Plain and simple had no children all of her life Teewee added the word until.
TEEWEE DIEGO:
YOU KNOW HARLAN YOU NEVER MET THE ISSUE HEAD ON
WE WERE DEALING WITH THE WORD "until" AND HOW YOU APPLIED IT
ANYWAY I WILL GIVE AN ANSWER AS YOU DID
HARLAN BRAGG:
must have used different version. still the point is the word "until". find out for yourself what it really meant as intended by the writers of the gospel.
God bless, brother.
TEEWEE REPLY
YOU KNOW HARLAN - YOU CHOSE ONLY ONE VERSE TO ANSWER
AND YOU CHOSE THE VERSE THAT DID NOT HAVE THE WORD UNTIL
NOW MY BIBLE DOES NOT HAVE THE WORD UNTIL TOO- IT SAYS THAT JOSEPH DID
NOT HAVE ANY RELATIONS WITH MARY AND THAT IS IT.
BUT I DID NOT USE MY CATHOLIC BIBLE -I USED THE KING JAMES-
NOW HOW ABOUT THE VERSE THAT SAYS
"I WILL BE WITH YOU UNTIL THE END OF TIME"
YOU DID NOT ANSWER THIS ONE-
NICE TRY HARLAN HEHEHE
SO NOW WE RESORT TO VERBAL ENGINEERING HEHEHEHEH
NICE TRY HARLAN
I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER NICE TRY HARLAN
HEHEHE
HARLAN BRAGG:
I know what it meant when its says Joseph took Mary home as his WIFE and he didn't have UNION or SEXUAL relations UNTIL the child was BORN
MT 1:24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25 But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
This verse is so simple and straight forward why are you trying to change its meaning? I can not understand that!
HARLAN BRAGG:
HAHAH YOU ARE STILL FAR AWAY FROM WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND
ANSWER WHAT JESUS SAID - UNTIL THE END OF TIME
TSK TSK PICK AND CHOOSE WHATEVER YOU LIKE
JUST WAIT FOR MY ANSWER
YOU GAVE AN OPINION AGAIN- THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE GOOD AT
HAHAHAHAH I WILL NOT STOP LAUGHING AT YOU
KEEP ON TRYIN MAN
ERICA ERICSSON:
we do not change the meaning. we go back to what it really meant as the writer intended to mean it. if you chose the modern meaning then stick to it, harlan.
you cannot use today's word, the translation of the original word, if you want to get to the true meaning and intent of the writer. if i say, it is raining cats and dogs the people 1000 years from now will be wrong to believe these words as they appear. if they do not go back to our time they will never get it right.
find out yourself what the word "until" really meant according to the writer. this way you do not do injustice to him and does not give another meaning to the verse.
TEEWEE DIEGO:
AFTER MY STORY THAT WILL REALLY REALLY INTIMIDATE HARLAN
I WILL GO TO THE GREEK SIDE OF IT
ERICA ERICSSON:
A brief study of the concept of "until" as used in Matthew 1:25a
"...but he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son." (NIV)
"...but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; (NRSV)
"...and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son." (NKJV)
The Greek word most often translated as "until" is eos (pronounced āōs), and is negated by ouk at the beginning of the phrase, meaning "not."
The modern-day meaning of the word "until" might lead us to think that Joseph "did not know her until..." but that he did afterwards. However, the biblical usage is quite different. In ancient and biblical usage, the word eos is used to designate a "boundary formed by a historical event."[2]
The Greek conjunction eos (till), like the Hebrew ad-ki and the Latin donec, while expressing what has occurred up to a certain period, leaves the future entirely aside"[3]
Here are some cross references to illustrate that ouk...eos it more accurately translated as "not until this important event, but still not after" (i.e. never.)
1) Note Luke 2:36-37, the story of Christ's Presentation at the Temple. The verse describes Anna the prophetess as having lived with her husband for 7 years after their marriage, and then, "she has lived as a widow until (eos) ." At the time of The Presentation of Christ she is still a widow, and will continue to be so after this. The "boundary" historical event is the Presentation of Christ.
2) Another good example of this is Acts 8:40. The verse says "Phillip.... traveled about, preaching the gospel in all the towns until (eos) he reached Caesarea" (NIV) Did Phillip the deacon preach the gospel after he reached Caesarea? Of course he did. The "boundary" historical event is Phillip the deacon's arrival in Caesarea and the word eos is used to denote the importance of this event. He preached before, until this significant event, and still after.
3) Another example is Matthew 24:21, where the use of the word (eos) as having an action as continuing into the future is actually clarified in the text: "then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until (eos) now – and never to be equaled again." This great distress has not been seen until now, and still, will never be seen again.
4) See John 5:17. Jesus is speaking: "My Father is always at work to (eos) this very day, and I, too am working." (NIV) or "My Father has been working until (eos) now..."(NKJV) "My Father is still working, (eos) and I also am working." Clearly Jesus did not mean that His Father was working only until that very day, but still. Jesus' presence on earth was a "boundary" historical event. The Father worked until that day, and still afterwards.
5) other examples: Genesis 8.7 "Noah...sent forth a raven; and it went to and fro till the waters were dried up from the earth."
Psalm 110.1 "the Lord said to my Lord: Sit thou on my right hand until I make thy enemies thy footstool."
See also Isaiah 22.15, Matt 12.20, 1 Tim 4.13, Psalm 90.2, Psalm 72.7
until does not mean something happened after. it means nothing ever happened after. so it really meant Joseph never had union with Mama Mary after the birth of Jesus. we have to be faithful as to what the writer really intend to tell us.
Luke 1:28 uses a special conjugated form of "charitoo." It uses "kecharitomene," while Ephesians 1:6 uses "echaritosen," which is a different form of the verb "charitoo." Echaritosen means "he graced" (or bestowed grace). Echaritosen signifies a momentary action, an action brought to pass (Blass and DeBrunner, Greek Grammar of the New Testament, p. 166). Whereas, Kecharitomene, the perfect passive participle, shows a completeness with a permanent result. Kecharitomene denotes continuance of a completed action (H. W. Smyth, Greek Grammar [Harvard Univ Press, 1968], p. 108-109, sec 1852:b; also Blass and DeBrunner, p. 175).
Kecharitomene meaning "full of grace", a continuation, as always Mama Mary was full of grace, for all time.
HARLAN BRAGG:
((Teewee said: BUT I DID NOT USE MY CATHOLIC BIBLE -I USED THE KING JAMES-NOW HOW ABOUT THE VERSE THAT SAYS))
The King James is an out dated English language which was limited with its translations of words. So the bible scholars saw it fit to redo the King James with a new modern English that could be easily understood.
I mean come on now when was the last time someone said I Spank unto thee thy word or where art thou going?
Key Points
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TEEWEE DIEGO:
MY CATHOLIC BIBLE SAYS IN MATTHEW 1:25
"so she gave birth to a son and he had not had relations with her. Joseph gave him the name Jesus"
TO the JEWS -YESHUA- means -GOD SAVES- JOSEPH NOW KNEW WHO MARY WAS CONCEIVING
BUT I DID NOT INSIST ON IT- I PLAYED YOUR COURT THE KING JAMES VERSION
LATER ON I WILL GO TO THE GREEK
WHO IS JOSEPH and MARY?
MATTHEW 1:18
This is how Jesus Christ was born. Mary his mother had been given to Joseph in marriage but before they lived together, she was found to be pregnant...
"THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT"-.....I WILL REPEAT THROUGH "THE HOLY SPIRIT"
(the protestant world treat the pregnancy of Mary
as just an ordinary pregnancy as if the holy spirit can just impregnate any woman in this planet, let alone any woman can just give birth to a JESUS CHRIST, why? because it is CATHOLIC AND ANY CATHOLIC BELIEF THEY STAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD- SO TO SPEAK)
.....then Joseph her husband made plans to divorce her in all secrecy.
HE WAS AN UPRIGHT MAN, and in no way did he want to discredit her.....
WHY IN SECRET?- the secret was.. that MARY WAS PREGNANT BECAUSE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT !!!!! who would ever believe a simple country lass a virgin being
pregnant because of the HOLY SPIRIT. THE WHOLE OF ISRAEL MIGHT BE LAUGHING AT YOU IF YOU SAY THIS.
PUT THIS IN THAT BRAIN OF YOURS HARLAN
and JOSEPH being an upright man married MARY so that the HARSH MOSAIC LAW
will not be imposed on Mary. She will be stoned to death.
MARY the niece of ZECARIAH - the high priest who six months ago just went in to the INNER TEMPLE only done ONCE A YEAR DURING THE FEAST OF THE DAY OF ATONEMENT- OFFERING SACRIFICE FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL IN ATONEMENT for THEIR SINS- AND to the HIGH PRIESTS OF ISRAEL-they draw lots on who will enter this INNER SANCTUM to make an offering- this is a risky undertaking for a HIGH PRIEST who has not cleansed himself well enough might end up dead. That is why they are tied to their waste so in case he dies - he will be pulled out.
Now Mary who is pregnant and unmarried will be scandalized so much not only in Jerusalem but maybe to the whole nation of Israel being the niece of
the HIGH PRIEST of THE TEMPLE- YOU CAN NOW IMAGINE THE BIG SHAME AND SCANDAL TO THE WHOLE CLAN OF THE HIGH PRIEST ZECARIAH the father of JOHN THE baptist. The jews will be after the stoning of Mary.
the levitical line of MARY- IS "ANAWIM" - THEY ARE JEWS WHO LIVE RIGHTEOUS
AND STRICTLY OBESERVES THE LAW OF MOSES -in other words it is a PURIFIED GROUP in the LEVITICAL TRIBE-
AND GOD CHOSE THE MOTHER OF JESUS from this group.
why was Joseph contemplating to divorce Mary and in no way to discredit her?
Because of fear!!!
Joseph new that MARY now belongs to GOD ALREADY- being pregnant because of
the overshadowing of the HOLY SPIRIT - SHE WAS GOD'S PROPERTY
SHE BECAME THE SPOUSE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT- SHE WAS SACRED GROUND.
and that MARY'S womb has the FIRSTBORNE- THE FIRST TO LEAVE THE WOMB
the JEWS HAD A HIGH REGARD FOR THE FIRSTBORN OF ANY WOMB- READ IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT ABOUT THE FIRSTBORN-
WHEN GOD SETTLED ON MOUNT SINAI TO MEET WITH MOSES AND ON THAT MOUNTAIN
GOD CARVED WITH HIS FINGERS SO TO SPEAK THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ON THE ROCK AND GAVE THE LAWS ON HOW THE JEWS WILL LIVE AND HIS MIGHTY NAME- AND A COVENANT- HE DECLARED THAT MOUNTAIN A SACRED GROUND.
A PRERIMETER WAS EVEN ESTABLISHED AND THOSE WHO VIOLATES THIS PERIMETER WILL DIE- AND INSTRUCTED MOSES TO EVEN TAKE OUT HIS SANDALS.
JOSEPH NEW WHAT BELONGS TO GOD BELONGS TO GOD. DID YOU GET THIS HARLAN
JOSEPH WILL NOT EVEN THINK OF WHAT HARLAN IS ALWAYS THINKING. THAT IS SEX!!
BEFORE JOSEPH WENT TO HIS PLAN OF DIVORCING MARY THINKING THAT HE WAS RIGHT.
BECAUSE MARY IS NOT ORDINARY ANYMORE FOR SHE BELONGS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT- ON
THE OTHER HAND KNOWING THE SCRIPTURES
JOSEPH NEW THAT GOD HATES DIVORCE
THE ANGEL APPEARED TO HER AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID
MATTHEW 1:20
"JOSEPH DESCENDANT OF DAVID "DO NOT BE AFRAID TO TAKE MARY AS YOUR WIFE
SHE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT "
verse 21 "AND WILL BEAR A SON WHOM YOU ARE TO CALL JESUS ( GOD SAVES) FOR HE WILL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS"
THAT WAS THE FEAR HARLAN -
THAT IS WHY JOSEPH DID NOT ENTER INTO MARY AND NEVER DID
HE WAS A RIGHTEOUS MAN- NOT LIKE YOU- YOU ONLY SAY IT AND I DONT BELIEVE IT- EVER
BUT YOU HAD NO FEAR IN YOUR THOUGHTS HARLAN THAT IS WHY I NEVER BELIEVED YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE YOU KEEP ON THINKING ABOUT MUNDANE THINGS IN YOUR MIND.
YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE JESUS OH HOW YOU DECLARE THIS IN ALL YOUR POSTINGS- BUT YOU NEVER TREATED EVERYTHING IN JESUS AS SACRED-
EVERYTHING IN JESUS IS SACRED HARLAN- HIS MOTHER AND HIS FOSTER FATHER JOSEPH GIVE RESPECT WHERE RESPECT IS DUE.
S WILL RECOGNIZE YOU FOR THAT
HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF YOUR FRIEND TREATS YOUR OWN MOTHER COMING INTO
YOU HOUSE AS IF HE SEES YOUR MOTHER A FIXTURE IN YOUR HOUSE.
ONCE AGAIN I WILL REPEAT WHAT YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED
-YOU DID NOT REFUTE ANY OF THE BROTHERS OF JESUS THAT I IDENTIFIED WHO THEIR
FATHERS ARE AND NOT JOSEPH THE HUSBAND OF MARY- YOU SAY THE BIBLE IS NOT
THAT DEEP- BUT YOU WENT TOO DEEP WITH YOUR OPINIONS AND CONCLUSIONS
-HOW ABOUT JESUS WILL NOT BE WITH US ANYMORE AND HE WILL NOT BE
WITH US AFTER THE END OF TIME- WHERE IS MY ANSWER USING YOUR ARGUMENT
TO THE VERSE- NONE- YOU PICKED AND CHOOSE AGAIN
-WHAT ARE THE NAMES OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS- AGAIN YOU SAID
THE BIBLE IS NOT THAT DEEP- BUT YOU WERE DEEP IN YOUR OPINIONS
-WHO ARE LIVING PEOPLE THAT CAN BE IDENTIFIED TODAY COMING FROM THE LINE
OF JESUS CHRIST? NO ONE HAS EVER COME UP TO CLAIM THAT JESUS WAS HIS
GRAND DAD.
-WHERE ARE HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS DURING THE TIME OF CRUCIFIXION -WHY DID
JESUS LEAVE HIS MOTHER TO JOHN?? again YOU GAVE NO ANSWER
AND ALL ALONG YOU ANCHORED YOUR ARGUMENT ON JUST ONE WORD - "UNTIL"
"UNTIL" YOU CAN BACK UP YOUR CLAIM THAT JESUS HAD BIOLOGICAL BROTHERS AND SISTERS- YOU WILL COME OUT TO BE A STORY TELLER OF ALL TIMES
REMEMBER THE NUN THAT YOU SAID YOU ARE TRYING TO CONVERT - YOU COULD STARTED WITH THE POPE SO WE CAN EASILY VERIFY
"UNTIL" YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOUND REASONS AND LOGICAL AT THAT
"UNTIL" THEN I WILL BELIEVE YOU
HERE IS ONE BIG ADVISE- GO TO A CREDIBLE BIBLE TEACHER OR COLLEGE-
ESPECIALLY ONE THAT CAN TEACH BIBLICAL HISTORY
THAT HAS HERMENEUTICS AND CAN EXPLAIN THE EXEGIES OF WHAT THE AUTHOR WROTE
IN PLAIN READING YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AUTHOR TRYING TO SAY.
THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED EXEGIES- KNOW THIS FIRST
PERSONAL CONVICTIONS WILL TAKE YOU NOWHERE AND STILL END UP WITH NOTHING
Monday, January 25, 2010
ANG LUMPIA CHRISTOLOGY NI ELI SORIANO
Anonymous said...
Iisa lang ang likas na kalagayan ng isang being.
Si Cristo DIOS na nag anyong tao.
Tao ang katawan pero ang nasa loob nun DIOS.
bagong kaanib ng ADD nakausap nito. may paksa sa Pasalamat na "Kung bakit ang Panginoong JesuCristo ay tao rin"
nga pala, kung paniwala ng Simbahan ay tao rin likas na kalagayan ni Cristo at di lang DIOS, they should not debate with INCs kung paniwala nyo tao din si Cristo.
Si Cristo ay DIOS na nasa loob ng anyong tao.
kaya nung namatay ang katawan, yung Espiritu pumunta sa bilangguan ng mga espiritu (1 Pedro 3:18-19) Catholic Church believes on it also.
yung Espiritung nasa loob ng katawan, DIOS yun (Colosas 2:9)nananahan sa katawang tao ni Cristo sa lupa.
Tao yung katawan pero yung nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.
kung pinag uusapan nyo ay tunay na likas na kalagayan ni Cristo, natural DIOS siya. (original nature niya ah) naniniwala naman ang Simbahan na ang original nature ni Jesus eh DIOS.
pero nung nasa lupa, naging 2. yung katawan ay tao pero ang nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.
bagong kaanib lang nakausap nyo. may paksa sa pasalamatan na "kung bakit ang Panginoong Jesus ay tao rin"
P.S. iisa lang pinagkaiba ng Christology natin. you dont believe that God and Jesus are equal. the rest magkapareho.
January 20, 2010 12:27 PM
REPLY OF THE CATHOLICS
to: MISTER ANONYMOUS NA ADD
KAAWAY HINDI PAREHO ANG PANIWALA NATIN SA ESSENCE ,SUBSTANCE OR NATURE NG DIYOS-
PUMUNTA KA NA LANG SA KATEKISMO NAMIN AT WALA KAMING SINASABI SA LOOB AT SA LABAS
MERON KA PA KASING SA LOOB AT SA LABAS- MUKANG KENDI O LUMPIA YATA ITONG SINASABI MO-
KASI PARANG CHOCOLATE O LUMPIA SI CRISTO SA INYO- CRISPY SA LABAS AT NADUN ANG LAMAN SA LOOB-
PAANO MO NALAMAN - SA LOOB AY DIYOS- GAANO KA LALIM PAGKATAPOS NG BALAT NI JESUS ANG PAGKA DIYOS NIYA
IBIGAY MO NGA SA AKIN ANG LALIM- PARANG BUHOK LANG YAN- GAANO KAHABA ANG MAHABA 0 ANG IGSI SA MAIKSI
IBIGAY MO NGA SA AKIN ANG SUKAT NA GALING SA BIBLIA-
NASA BA ANG KALULUWA NG TAO NASA LOOB O NASA LABAS? NAKITA NA BA NI ELI KUNG NASAAN ITO
PARANG YUNG PUWIT -SIYA LANG YATA ANG TAO NA NAKAKITA NITO
SA LOOB AT SA LABAS NAMAN SA ANYO NI CRISTO- IBIGAY MO SA AKIN SAAN SA LOOB NG ANYON CRISTO ANG DIYOS
WALA TAYONG PAREHONG ARAL AT TURO-
LALO MONG PINALALA- MAS BAGUHAN KA PA YATA KAY RYAN DE LA CRUZ- O IKAW DIN YAN
KUNG HINDI MO MAIBIBIGAY- ANONG KENDI BA ITO O LUMPIA- SHANGHAI O FREASH LUMPIA
SORI FOR THE DELAY IN REPLY- DAMI LANG KASING GINAGAWA
Friday, January 22, 2010
MGA KAMANGMANGAN AT PAGMAMARUNONG NI ELISEO "DEMONYO" SORIANO
MAY NAKAKAUSAP pong miyembro ng ANG DATING DAAN o ADD ang reader nating si Ozner at sinasabi raw nung kausap niya na "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK" ng DIYOS AMA ang ANAK Niyang si HESU KRISTO.
ANO po ba ang KAHULUGAN ng "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK"?
Sa ISIP NATIN, ang LARAWAN po ng NANGANGANAK ay yung BABAE na UMIIRI at NAGHIHIRAP para ISILANG ang isang BATA. Hindi po ba?
GANOON po ba ang ibig sabihin ng "LITERAL na NANGANAK?"
Kung ganyan po ang nasa isip nung ADD na kausap ni Ozner ay MALI PO ang PANINIWALA NIYA.
NAGBABATAY po kasi sila sa MALI NILANG PAGKAUNAWA sa pagiging ANAK ng DIYOS ng PANGINOONG HESUS.
At isa iyan ang ginagamit nila para sabihin na "HINDI PANTAY" ang AMA at ANAK.
TAMA po na si HESUS ay ANAK ng DIYOS. TAMA na si KRISTO ay LUMABAS MULA sa AMA.
,
Pero MALI po yung KONSEPTO na IPINANGANAK SIYA na TULAD ng sa TAO.
Sa sinasabi nung ADD na "IPINANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK" ay tila PINALALABAS NILA na NUNG HINDI PA IPINANGANGANAK si HESUS ay "WALA PA ang ANAK."
Hindi po ba ganyan ang sa tao? May panahon na WALA PA ang ANAK at NAGKAKAROON LANG ng ANAK kapag NAKAPANGANAK NA ANG BABAE.
So, kung ilalapat iyan sa DIYOS ay pinalalabas nga ng IBA na NUNG HINDI PA IPINAPANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK ay WALA PA ANG ANAK.
Sa nauna po nating artikulo ay tinalakay na natin ang MALING PANINIWALA na "MAY PANAHON NA WALA PA ANG ANAK."
Ang AMA, ANAK at ESPIRITU SANTO (o ang TATLONG PERSONA ng IISANG DIYOS) ay SABAY-SABAY NA UMIIRAL: WALANG NAUNA at WALANG NAHULI. Ang BAWAT ISA ay WALANG SIMULA at WALANG KATAPUSAN.
May mga tao po kasi na NALILITO sa sinabi ng Proverbs 8:22-25.
Diyan ay nagsasalita ang KARUNUNGAN ng DIYOS.
Sabi po sa 1 Corinthians 1:24, ang KARUNUNGAN ng DIYOS ay si KRISTO.
Sa Prov 8:24 ay sinasabi ng KARUNUNGAN na "Noong wala pang malalalim na dagat AKO AY INILUWAL (o IPINANGANAK) ..."
Ang SALITANG HEBREO po kasing ginamit riyan ay "KHOLALTI" (bigkas ay "CHUWL") na ang kahulugan ay IPINANGANAK.
Diyan marahil kinuha ng iba ang paniniwala nilang "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK" ng DIYOS AMA ang KANYANG ANAK.
Ayon sa STRONG'S HEBREW DICTIONARY, Number 02342, ang KAHULUGAN ng KHOLALTI (CHUWL) ay ang sumusunod:
1. to twist, whirl, dance, writhe, fear, tremble, travail, be in anguish, be pained
A. (Qal)
a. to dance
b. to twist, writhe
c. to whirl, whirl about
B. (Polel)
a. to dance
b. to writhe (in travail with), bear, bring forth
c. to wait anxiously
C. (Pulal)
a. to be made to writhe, be made to bear
b. to be brought forth
D. (Hophal) to be born
E. (Hithpolel)
a. whirling (participle)
b. writhing, suffering torture (participle)
c. to wait longingly
F. (Hithpalpel) to be distressed
Paki pansin po ang kahulugan sa Letrang D na "to be born."
Baka po nabasa ng taga-ADD ang kahulugan ng KHOLALTI at NAISIP NILA na "ABA! OO NGA! LITERAL na IPINANGANAK ang ANAK!"
Pero LITERAL nga po ba porke ginamit ang salitang KHOLALTI (CHUWL) para sa "IPINANGANAK."
HINDI po.
Paki puna po ninyo na ang LITERAL na KAHULUGAN ng KHOLALTI ay MAY KASAMANG "PAMIMILIPIT" (WRITHE = A, b; B, b; C, a; E, b).
Ang DIYOS po ba ay MAMIMILIPIT para "IPANGANAK" ang KARUNUGAN?
Ayon pa nga po sa DEFINITION E, letrang b, ay "writhing, suffering TORTURE."
Ganoon? MAMIMILIPIT po ba sa SAKIT ang DIYOS para IPANGANAK ang KARUNUNGAN?
HINDI po!
Ang PAMIMILIPIT po sa SAKIT habang NANGANGANAK ay DOON IBINIGAY ng DIYOS sa BABAE (EBA) matapos na SIYA ay MAGKASALA.
Sabi po ng DIYOS sa Genesis 3:16, "PATITINDIHIN KO ang PAGHIHIRAP ng IYONG PAGDADALANTAO at MASAKIT MONG ILULUWAL ang IYONG mga ANAK."
Sa madaling salita po ang MASAKIT na PANGANGANAK ay BUNGA ng KASALANAN.
Kung sasabihin nino man na LITERAL na IPINANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK ay sinasabi nila na NAMILIPIT DIN sa SAKIT ang AMA nung INILUWAL NIYA ang ANAK.
Palalabasin nila na APEKTADO rin ng BUNGA na KASALANAN ang AMA.
TAMA PO BANG PANIWALAAN ang GANOON?
MALI po. Ang DIYOS ay SAKDAL LINIS at BUSILAK kaya HINDI SIYA MAMIMILIPIT sa SAKIT sa PAGSILANG sa KANYANG ANAK.
Pero kung ganoon po ay BAKIT GINAMIT ang KHOLALTI (CHUWL) para ILARAWAN ang PANGANGANAK ng DIYOS sa KANYANG ANAK?
Ginamit po iyan para MALINAW na ILARAWAN na ang ANAK o KARUNUNGAN ay NAGMULA MISMO sa AMA: DIYOS MULA SA DIYOS, IISA ang SANGKAP ng PAGKA-DIYOS at IISA ang PAGIGING DIYOS.
Ang PUNTO ay yung KATIYAKAN sa PINAGMULAN ng ANAK (DIYOS na NAGMULA sa DIYOS) at HINDI YUNG PROSESO (PAMIMILIPIT sa SAKIT).
MULI, HINDI iyan NANGANGAHULUGAN na "MAY PANAHON na WALA ang ANAK" at "UMIRAL LANG SIYA NUNG IPANGANAK ng AMA."
Ang DIYOS ANAK bilang KARUNUNGAN at KAPANGYARIHAN ng AMA (1 Cor 1:24) ay KASAMA NA ng AMA sa PASIMULA (Jn 1:1) at BAGO PA ang PASIMULA (Jn 17:5).
Ang AMA at ANAK kasi ay IISA. (Jn 10:30)
Ganoon po iyon.
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