Monday, January 25, 2010

ANG LUMPIA CHRISTOLOGY NI ELI SORIANO




Anonymous said...

Iisa lang ang likas na kalagayan ng isang being.

Si Cristo DIOS na nag anyong tao.

Tao ang katawan pero ang nasa loob nun DIOS.

bagong kaanib ng ADD nakausap nito. may paksa sa Pasalamat na "Kung bakit ang Panginoong JesuCristo ay tao rin"

nga pala, kung paniwala ng Simbahan ay tao rin likas na kalagayan ni Cristo at di lang DIOS, they should not debate with INCs kung paniwala nyo tao din si Cristo.

Si Cristo ay DIOS na nasa loob ng anyong tao.

kaya nung namatay ang katawan, yung Espiritu pumunta sa bilangguan ng mga espiritu (1 Pedro 3:18-19) Catholic Church believes on it also.

yung Espiritung nasa loob ng katawan, DIOS yun (Colosas 2:9)nananahan sa katawang tao ni Cristo sa lupa.

Tao yung katawan pero yung nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.

kung pinag uusapan nyo ay tunay na likas na kalagayan ni Cristo, natural DIOS siya. (original nature niya ah) naniniwala naman ang Simbahan na ang original nature ni Jesus eh DIOS.

pero nung nasa lupa, naging 2. yung katawan ay tao pero ang nasa loob ng katawan DIOS.

bagong kaanib lang nakausap nyo. may paksa sa pasalamatan na "kung bakit ang Panginoong Jesus ay tao rin"

P.S. iisa lang pinagkaiba ng Christology natin. you dont believe that God and Jesus are equal. the rest magkapareho.
January 20, 2010 12:27 PM



REPLY OF THE CATHOLICS

to: MISTER ANONYMOUS NA ADD

KAAWAY HINDI PAREHO ANG PANIWALA NATIN SA ESSENCE ,SUBSTANCE OR NATURE NG DIYOS-

PUMUNTA KA NA LANG SA KATEKISMO NAMIN AT WALA KAMING SINASABI SA LOOB AT SA LABAS

MERON KA PA KASING SA LOOB AT SA LABAS- MUKANG KENDI O LUMPIA YATA ITONG SINASABI MO-

KASI PARANG CHOCOLATE O LUMPIA SI CRISTO SA INYO- CRISPY SA LABAS AT NADUN ANG LAMAN SA LOOB-

PAANO MO NALAMAN - SA LOOB AY DIYOS- GAANO KA LALIM PAGKATAPOS NG BALAT NI JESUS ANG PAGKA DIYOS NIYA

IBIGAY MO NGA SA AKIN ANG LALIM- PARANG BUHOK LANG YAN- GAANO KAHABA ANG MAHABA 0 ANG IGSI SA MAIKSI

IBIGAY MO NGA SA AKIN ANG SUKAT NA GALING SA BIBLIA-

NASA BA ANG KALULUWA NG TAO NASA LOOB O NASA LABAS? NAKITA NA BA NI ELI KUNG NASAAN ITO

PARANG YUNG PUWIT -SIYA LANG YATA ANG TAO NA NAKAKITA NITO


SA LOOB AT SA LABAS NAMAN SA ANYO NI CRISTO- IBIGAY MO SA AKIN SAAN SA LOOB NG ANYON CRISTO ANG DIYOS

WALA TAYONG PAREHONG ARAL AT TURO-

LALO MONG PINALALA- MAS BAGUHAN KA PA YATA KAY RYAN DE LA CRUZ- O IKAW DIN YAN


KUNG HINDI MO MAIBIBIGAY- ANONG KENDI BA ITO O LUMPIA- SHANGHAI O FREASH LUMPIA

SORI FOR THE DELAY IN REPLY- DAMI LANG KASING GINAGAWA

Friday, January 22, 2010

MGA KAMANGMANGAN AT PAGMAMARUNONG NI ELISEO "DEMONYO" SORIANO

May panahon ba na wala ang Diyos Anak? (3)
MAY NAKAKAUSAP pong miyembro ng ANG DATING DAAN o ADD ang reader nating si Ozner at sinasabi raw nung kausap niya na "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK" ng DIYOS AMA ang ANAK Niyang si HESU KRISTO.

ANO po ba ang KAHULUGAN ng "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK"?

Sa ISIP NATIN, ang LARAWAN po ng NANGANGANAK ay yung BABAE na UMIIRI at NAGHIHIRAP para ISILANG ang isang BATA. Hindi po ba?

GANOON po ba ang ibig sabihin ng "LITERAL na NANGANAK?"

Kung ganyan po ang nasa isip nung ADD na kausap ni Ozner ay MALI PO ang PANINIWALA NIYA.

NAGBABATAY po kasi sila sa MALI NILANG PAGKAUNAWA sa pagiging ANAK ng DIYOS ng PANGINOONG HESUS.

At isa iyan ang ginagamit nila para sabihin na "HINDI PANTAY" ang AMA at ANAK.

TAMA po na si HESUS ay ANAK ng DIYOS. TAMA na si KRISTO ay LUMABAS MULA sa AMA.
,
Pero MALI po yung KONSEPTO na IPINANGANAK SIYA na TULAD ng sa TAO.

Sa sinasabi nung ADD na "IPINANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK" ay tila PINALALABAS NILA na NUNG HINDI PA IPINANGANGANAK si HESUS ay "WALA PA ang ANAK."

Hindi po ba ganyan ang sa tao? May panahon na WALA PA ang ANAK at NAGKAKAROON LANG ng ANAK kapag NAKAPANGANAK NA ANG BABAE.

So, kung ilalapat iyan sa DIYOS ay pinalalabas nga ng IBA na NUNG HINDI PA IPINAPANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK ay WALA PA ANG ANAK.

Sa nauna po nating artikulo ay tinalakay na natin ang MALING PANINIWALA na "MAY PANAHON NA WALA PA ANG ANAK."

Ang AMA, ANAK at ESPIRITU SANTO (o ang TATLONG PERSONA ng IISANG DIYOS) ay SABAY-SABAY NA UMIIRAL: WALANG NAUNA at WALANG NAHULI. Ang BAWAT ISA ay WALANG SIMULA at WALANG KATAPUSAN.

May mga tao po kasi na NALILITO sa sinabi ng Proverbs 8:22-25.

Diyan ay nagsasalita ang KARUNUNGAN ng DIYOS.

Sabi po sa 1 Corinthians 1:24, ang KARUNUNGAN ng DIYOS ay si KRISTO.

Sa Prov 8:24 ay sinasabi ng KARUNUNGAN na "Noong wala pang malalalim na dagat AKO AY INILUWAL (o IPINANGANAK) ..."

Ang SALITANG HEBREO po kasing ginamit riyan ay "KHOLALTI" (bigkas ay "CHUWL") na ang kahulugan ay IPINANGANAK.

Diyan marahil kinuha ng iba ang paniniwala nilang "LITERAL na IPINANGANAK" ng DIYOS AMA ang KANYANG ANAK.

Ayon sa STRONG'S HEBREW DICTIONARY, Number 02342, ang KAHULUGAN ng KHOLALTI (CHUWL) ay ang sumusunod:

1. to twist, whirl, dance, writhe, fear, tremble, travail, be in anguish, be pained

A. (Qal)
a. to dance
b. to twist, writhe
c. to whirl, whirl about

B. (Polel)
a. to dance
b. to writhe (in travail with), bear, bring forth
c. to wait anxiously

C. (Pulal)
a. to be made to writhe, be made to bear
b. to be brought forth

D. (Hophal) to be born

E. (Hithpolel)
a. whirling (participle)
b. writhing, suffering torture (participle)
c. to wait longingly

F. (Hithpalpel) to be distressed

Paki pansin po ang kahulugan sa Letrang D na "to be born."

Baka po nabasa ng taga-ADD ang kahulugan ng KHOLALTI at NAISIP NILA na "ABA! OO NGA! LITERAL na IPINANGANAK ang ANAK!"

Pero LITERAL nga po ba porke ginamit ang salitang KHOLALTI (CHUWL) para sa "IPINANGANAK."

HINDI po.

Paki puna po ninyo na ang LITERAL na KAHULUGAN ng KHOLALTI ay MAY KASAMANG "PAMIMILIPIT" (WRITHE = A, b; B, b; C, a; E, b).

Ang DIYOS po ba ay MAMIMILIPIT para "IPANGANAK" ang KARUNUGAN?

Ayon pa nga po sa DEFINITION E, letrang b, ay "writhing, suffering TORTURE."

Ganoon? MAMIMILIPIT po ba sa SAKIT ang DIYOS para IPANGANAK ang KARUNUNGAN?

HINDI po!

Ang PAMIMILIPIT po sa SAKIT habang NANGANGANAK ay DOON IBINIGAY ng DIYOS sa BABAE (EBA) matapos na SIYA ay MAGKASALA.

Sabi po ng DIYOS sa Genesis 3:16, "PATITINDIHIN KO ang PAGHIHIRAP ng IYONG PAGDADALANTAO at MASAKIT MONG ILULUWAL ang IYONG mga ANAK."

Sa madaling salita po ang MASAKIT na PANGANGANAK ay BUNGA ng KASALANAN.

Kung sasabihin nino man na LITERAL na IPINANGANAK ng AMA ang ANAK ay sinasabi nila na NAMILIPIT DIN sa SAKIT ang AMA nung INILUWAL NIYA ang ANAK.

Palalabasin nila na APEKTADO rin ng BUNGA na KASALANAN ang AMA.

TAMA PO BANG PANIWALAAN ang GANOON?

MALI po. Ang DIYOS ay SAKDAL LINIS at BUSILAK kaya HINDI SIYA MAMIMILIPIT sa SAKIT sa PAGSILANG sa KANYANG ANAK.

Pero kung ganoon po ay BAKIT GINAMIT ang KHOLALTI (CHUWL) para ILARAWAN ang PANGANGANAK ng DIYOS sa KANYANG ANAK?

Ginamit po iyan para MALINAW na ILARAWAN na ang ANAK o KARUNUNGAN ay NAGMULA MISMO sa AMA: DIYOS MULA SA DIYOS, IISA ang SANGKAP ng PAGKA-DIYOS at IISA ang PAGIGING DIYOS.

Ang PUNTO ay yung KATIYAKAN sa PINAGMULAN ng ANAK (DIYOS na NAGMULA sa DIYOS) at HINDI YUNG PROSESO (PAMIMILIPIT sa SAKIT).

MULI, HINDI iyan NANGANGAHULUGAN na "MAY PANAHON na WALA ang ANAK" at "UMIRAL LANG SIYA NUNG IPANGANAK ng AMA."

Ang DIYOS ANAK bilang KARUNUNGAN at KAPANGYARIHAN ng AMA (1 Cor 1:24) ay KASAMA NA ng AMA sa PASIMULA (Jn 1:1) at BAGO PA ang PASIMULA (Jn 17:5).

Ang AMA at ANAK kasi ay IISA. (Jn 10:30)

Ganoon po iyon.

GALING PO ITO KAY CONVOY

PURGATORY


PURGATORY IS AN OLD WORD COMING FROM THE EARLY LANGUAGE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, LATIN- I T MEANS TO PURGE , TO CLEAN OR TO
PURIFY-

THIS WORD CAN BE FOUND IN THE LATIN VULGATE THE FIRST BIBLE, ITALIAN AND SPANISH. AND OTHER EUROPEAN BIBLES.


"For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ," (1 Cor. 3:11).

AND CHRIST LAID THIS FOUNDATION TO THE
TWELVE APOSTLES

THE APOSTLES TO THE BISHOPS

AND THE BISHOPS TO THEIR SUCCEEDING BISHOPS


"AS THE FATHER HAS SENT ME SO I SEND YOU
ANYONE WHO REJECTS YOU REJECTS THE ONE WHO SENT
ME"





REVELATION 21:27- "NOTHING UNCLEAN WILL BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD"


1 CORINTHIANS 3:10
PAUL IS SAYING ,"I AS A GOOD ARCHITECT, ACCORDING TO THE

CAPACITY GIVEN TO ME , I LAID THE FOUNDATION

AND NO OTHER IS TO BUILD UPON IT-LET EACH ONE BE CAREFUL HOW HE

BUILDS UPON IT.


... PAUL IS SAYING THAT HE FOUNDED CHURCHES IN HIS MISSION TO

THE GENTILES , NOW SIMILARLY HE WILL SAY THAT HE CAN NOT LAY A

FOUNDATION ON ANOTHER MANS TEACHING IN ROME , I WILL DEAL WITH

THAT LATER IN THE BOOK OF ROMANS.


GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE- DEUTERONOMY 4:24



VERSE 11 "

"NO ONE LAY A FOUNDATION A FOUNDATION OTHER THE ONE WHICH IS

ALREADY LAID, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST"


PAUL IS NOW SAYING THAT THERE IS ANOTHER KIND OF FOUNDATION ,

THE ONE LAID BY JESUS CHRIST - AND WE HAVE TO BUILD ON THAT

FOUNDATION- ATOP OF THAT FOUNDATION AND NOT LAY ANOTHER

FOUNDATION BUT TO BUILD ON THAT FOUNDATION- WHAT ARE THESE


TO CONTINUE.....

verse 12

" THEN IF SOMEONE BUILDS UPON THIS FOUNDATION, ANOTHER WITH

SILVER, AND PRECIOUS STONES, OR WITH WOOD, BAMBOO OR STRAW.



PAUL IS NOW SAYING WE HAVE TO BUILD UPON THIS FOUNDATION


VERSE 13-

"THE WORK OF EACH ONE WILL BE SHOWN FOR WHAT IT IS. THE DAY OF

JUDGEMENT WILL REVEAL IT REPEAT THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WILL REVEAL

IT, BECAUSE FIRE WILL MAKE EVERYTHING KNOWN. THE FIRE WILL TEST

THE WORK OF EVERYONE"




PAUL IS NOW SAYING ON OUR JUDGEMENT DAY WHETHER GENERAL OR

PARTICULAR JUDGMENT -PARTICULAR MEANING OUR OWN VERY PERSONAL

ON THE DAY WE MEET OUR MAKER, WE WILL FACE JESUS CHRIST.

AND THERE IS FIRE - WHERE WILL THIS FIRE COME FROM.


GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE- DEUTERONOMY 4:24



JESUS IS GOD- HE WILL BE OUR JUDGE ON THAT DAY WE MEET OUR MAKER


VERSE 14

"IF YOUR WORK WITHSTANDS THE FIRE YOU WILL BE REWARDED"


PAUL IS NOW SAYING TO EACH ONE OF US THAT OUR WORKS WILL BE LAID

UPON THE FOUNDATION

TO BE BURNED WITH GODS CONSUMING FIRE ON THAT DAY OF OUR

JUDGMENT.OUR DEATH





VERSE 15

"BUT IF YOUR WORK BECOMES ASHES , YOU WILL PAY FOR IT REPEAT YOU

WILL PAY FOR IT

YOU WILL BE SAVED repeat YOU WILL BE SAVED , BUT IT WILL BE AS

IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE"





NOW YOU WILL NOTICE THE VERSES 3:10 TO 15 TALKS ABOUT OUR WORKS

THAT WILL BE LAID ON THAT

FOUNDATION WHICH IS JESUS HIMSELF.


PAUL IS SAYING WHAT THE VALUE OF OUR WORKS OUR LIFE ON THIS EARTH WAS - METHAPHORICALLY ARE

THESE WORTH IN GOLD- THOSE WHO LIVED A VERY HOLY AND SAINTLY LIFE ON EARTH


WORTH IN SILVER -LOWER THAT THE WORKS OF THE SAINTS AND THE

APOSTLES


WORTH IN PRECIOUS STONES- I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN THIS. PRECIOUS

STONES DURING THOSE TIMES WERE NOT MUCH APPRECIATED AS TODAY

BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY AT THAT TIME HAS NO MEANS TO

GET THE BEAUTY FROM THIS STONES- THEY COULD NOT CUT AND POLISH

IT LIKE THEY DO TO THE

DIAMONDS OF TODAY. KAYA THIRD RATE NA PRECIOUS LANG ANG MGA ITO-

IT WAS STILL GOLD THAT

WAS THE NUMBER ONE.


HOW ABOUT THOSE WHOSE WORKS OF WOOD BAMBOO AND STRAW- THEY WILL

BURN - MEANING

YOUR WORKS DURING YOUR LIFE ON EARTH WERE NOT SO COMMENDABLE IN

THE SIGHT OF GOD. YOU COMMITED SINS THAT WILL NOT RESULT TO DEATH

YOU WILL BE SAVED ACCORDING TO THE VERSES BUT YOU WILL PAY

AS IF PASSING TO FIRE- YES MY FRIEND THAT IS PURGATORY- CALL IT

ANYWAY YOU WANT - IT IS A PLACE TO PURIFY YOU IN THE SIGHT OF

GOD.



WHY DID DAVID AND NEHEMIAH FASTED MOURNED AND PRAYED FOR THEIR

DEAD?

NEHEMIAH 1:4 NEHEMIAH FASTED PRAYED AND MOURNED FOR THE DEAD ,

1:7 FOR THE SINS OF HIS FAMILY AND HIS FATHER WHO DIED AND WAS BURIED IN THE RUINS
2:3 HIS FATHER IS DEAD AND BURIED


1 SAM 31:13 -DAVID TOOK THE BONES OF SAUL AND SON JONATHAN
2nd SAM 1:4 -SAUL AND SON JONATHAN ARE DEAD

1:11- DAVID FASTED PRAYED AND MOURNED FOR SAUL JONATHAN AND THE DEAD


SO NOW YOU WILL SEE THE JEWS REALLY PRAYED FOR THEIR DEAD

MATT 5:25-26 "YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO PRISON UNTIL THE LAST PENNY IS PAID"

matt 12:32- THERE WILL BE NO FORGIVENESS FOR THOSE WHO BLASPHEMY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THIS LIFE OR IN THE NEXT TO COME- WHAT IS THIS TO COME??

1 peter 3:18-20 "JESUS IN HIS SPIRIT PREACHED TO THIS SPIRITS IN PRISON"- WHO ARE THEN THESE SPIRITS THAT JESUS PREACHED TO, THEY HAVE BEEN DEAD SINCE THE GREAT FLOOD- CERTAINLY THIS IS NOT HELL- SOULS IN HELL ARE
INCOMMUNICADO- ALL HOPES ARE LOST- AND CONDEMNED FOREVER AND EVER AMEN.

1 JOHN 5:16-17 - SINS THAT WILL NOT RESULT TO THE DEATH OF YOUR SOUL AND THAT IS ETERNAL DAMNATION


PAUL SAYS IN 1 COR 3:15 YOU WILL BE REWARDED- YOU WILL PAY ,AS IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE

AND HOW WILL YOU PAY??

YOU WILL PAY UP TO LAST PENNY-THE GOSPWL SAYS

THE SPIRITS IN PRISON- HAD THEY PAID AND JESUS WILL NOW TAKE THEM OUT OF THAT PRISON FOR THE PROMISE OF HIS
RESURRECTION CAN NOW BE IMPLEMENTED-


THE NEXT AGE TO COME??- IS THIS HEAVEN? CERTAINLY NOT- FOR YOU ARE PAID AND FORGIVEN IN HEAVEN

IS THIS HELL-? you can not pay anymore- you have been damned

WHAT IS THIS PLACE AWAITING FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS- THERE IS ONLY ONE PLACE - AS IF PASSING THROUGH FIRE-
FOR YOU ARE BEING PURIFIED-

REVELATION- NOTHING UNCLEAN CAN ENTER HEAVEN-

THIS PLACE OF PURIFICATION CLEANS YOU UP FOR SINS THAT DOES NOT RESULT TO DEATH-

CALL IT WHAT YOU LIKE- BUT YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT THERE IS SUCH PLACE-

AND IT IS THE MERCY OF GOD FOR A SECOND CHANCE AND NO PLACE TO GO AFTER BUT TO HEAVEN-

Post #2
Elias Arzadon Jr wroteon December 8, 2009 at 9:09am
Purgatory


Intermediate state: Purgatory. No second chances – the souls there are saved, but through fire (1 Corinthians 3:15)


“There is a purgatory, and the souls there detained are assisted by the suffrages of the faithful, but especially by the most acceptable sacrifice of the altar” (Council of Trent).


This dogmatic definition contains 3 points of faith that all Catholics are required to believe:

1. There is a purgatory

2. After death, souls suffer there for their sins

3. The living can extend assistance to such souls


There is a purgatory



Forgiveness of sin in the next – Matthew 12:32

“Under the earth” – Revelations 5:2-3; Philippians 2:10



After death, souls suffer there for their sins

“You will not come out of it till you pay the last penny” – Matthew 5:26

“Matthean Parallel” (See: Matthew 18:23-35)

“Lazarusian Incident” (See: Luke 16:19-31)

Spirits in prison – 1 Peter 3:18-20; 4:6


The living can extend assistance to such souls


Restrain not grace from the dead – Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 7:37

See: Ruth 1:8

Offerings/Sacrifice for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:38-36

“And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection” (2 Maccabees 12:43, Douay-Rheims Bible).


Fasting for the for the dead

1 Samuel 31:13;

1 Chronicles 10:12

2 Samuel 1:12


Prayer for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:44-46

“It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins” (2 Maccabees 12:46, Douay-Rheims Bible).


See: Nehemiah 1:4-6, cf. Nehemiah 2:5


Understanding Purgatory:


1. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands knowing the nature/attributes of God:

God is Holy (Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Revelations 4:8; Leviticus 11:44

God is Just (1 John 1:9; Revelations 15:3)

God is Merciful (Psalm 116, Lamentations 3:22, Psalm 103:8)

See: Ruth 2:20

God is Love (1 John 4:8, 16)


2. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands a proper understanding of the concept of sin:


Gradation (degrees) of sin

Mortal Sin vs. Venial Sin (1 John 5:16-17)

Wednesday, January 20, 2010

WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE ONE WIFE BE IT A BISHOP OR A DEACON- 1 TIMOTHY chapter 3


WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE ONE WIFE BE IT A BISHOP OR A DEACON- 1 TIMOTHY chapter 3

Non Catholics just to attack the Catholic Church with their Bishopric and Priests

will not spare the celebacy stand that the Catholic Chruch imposed on the priesthood,

through an ECCLESIASTICAL LAW made by a POPE.

they contend that our BISHOP'S AND PRIEST MUST BE MARRIED according to what the bible said- oh yeah! let us

find out if they understood a very simple verse that only requires a minimum of intelligence -and common sense.


We must put into mind those attacking this gift of GOD to his church do not even
have bishops or priest to talk about-

Billy Graham even commented that God knows who to give this wonderful gift and will receive
it wholeheartedly.

he went further that it drains so much on the coffers of their fellowship providing for
the families of retired Pastors -sending to school their children and providing for the
upkeep of their families.

I remember watching EWTN- THE CONGREGATION OF MOTHER THERESA providing shelter and food
and care to retired , divorced and penniless pastors - what I saw was the old pastor being
hand fed by a sister- he was old and sick- he even apologized for when he was young-he said
too many things against the church that were not even true. Praise God -

"anything you did to the least of my brethren you did it unto me-Matthew 25"

Joel always quotes this- I wonder why? He is not even honest enough to say what fellowship he is
in right now- nor talk about doctrines that they have- he is always in the attack mode saying too many
things and now one by one he is being refuted and still he does not have nor answers any of the questions
that are raised or refutes that we made. I wonder too- if his fellowship does have bishops and priests
what use will you have to raise an issue when you have none of it-

Paul said you cannot give what you do not have-

why compare when you do not have it in you?

So it just boils down to their number one doctrine- as all other Anti-Catholics have as their numero uno
doctrine- validating their existence at the expense of the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Doctrine number one- "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THIS AND THE CATHOLIC IS THAT"- THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IN ALL OF THEM.


TIM STAPLES

a convert to Catholiscm and was an avid anti-Catholic and whose only dream in life was to be a BAPTIST PASTOR

with a wife playing the piano by the side in his chapel, told me- "I began to realize that we were all
HIDING behind the shadow of the Catholic Church" - read this in the book "SURPRISED BY THE TRUTH"

To keep us afloat we had to argue and continously argue against the CATHOLIC CHURCH-
Like Islam- all they ever wanted was the world to recognize prophet Mohammed like JESUS CHRIST who has so much

influenced the world.


1 TIMOTHY 3:1-12 "If someone aspires to the overseer's (bishop) ministry, he is without a doubt looking for a

noble task. It is necessary that the overseer be beyond reproach , "THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE"...........
AND A DEACON MUST BE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE"

THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT IF THEY WERE ORDAINED TO THE POSITION OF BEING A BISHOP OR A DEACON AND THEY ARE
MARRIED. THAT IS THE ONLY WIFE THAT THEY WILL HAVE IN THEIR LIFETIME- IF SHE DIES- THEY CAN NO LONGER RE-MARRY

COMMON SENSE- I AM NOT A BISHOP AND A DEACON- I AM JUST A LAY PRACTICING CATHOLIC. WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
DOES NOT CONCERN ME- DOES IT MEAN I CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE TWO THREE FOUR OR MAYBE MORE WIVES IN MY LIFE????

COMPRENDE JOEL???

NOW VERSE 6 "he must not be a recent convert, lest he become conceited........."

IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

A PRIEST CAN NOT MARRY- WHILE A MARRIED MAN CAN BECOME A PRIEST

There are many converts and clergies of various protestant sects who are married and are now priests
in the Catholic Church- one is FR RUTLER- HE IS GOOD AND HIS PHILISOPHY IS SUPERB.

The condition imposed to these converts is that they too cannot re-marry if they are widowed and they
will never be promoted to the position of a bishop.

Now - there are many many convert of the ANGLICAN CHURCH coming into the Catholic Church now and the VATICAN
had to put up a Department to study and accomodate them.

There are many bishops of the ANGLICAN CHURCH WHO ARE COMING IN TOO- millions of their members the news says.

It is for the POPE NOW TO STUDY THE MATTER ON THE BISHOPS OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH OF ENGLAND.

AFTERALL- HE CAN DO WHATEVER THERE IS TO BIND AND LOOSE- CHRIST GAVE HIS OFFICE THAT AUTHORITY. AMEN

Tuesday, January 19, 2010

THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS ACCORDING TO NON-CATHOLICS

THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS ACCORDING TO
NON-CATHOLICS- EXCEPT THE EASTERN ORTHODOXY

DID ST. MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS CHRIST HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN IN THE FLESH?

There is not a passage in the bible where it says Mary these are your children

nor a passage that says these are the children of Mary- you must remember that

Jesus was the only Son of Mary


Protestant will say that Joseph never had any relations with Mary until she gave birth to Jesus.

if we were to follow this argument and give a conclusion that the protestant says that Joseph had

sexual relations after Jesus was born.


Then Jesus will not be with us after the end of time-

Jesus said in Matthew 26:20 "FOR I am with you always until the end of the world"

So Jesus will not be with us after the end of time or the world . right Harlan and Joel??



The virgin is with a child and bears a son-
Isa 7:14-

"a son"- here means that the virgin will give birth to a baby boy- not a baby girl

Protestants will say - a son means one of the children-

when Jesus was an adult- here is what the Bible said:
Isnt he "THE SON" and not "a son" of but a carpenter from Nazareth?

"This gate shall be kept shut, No one will open it or go through it ,since the GOD OF ISRAEL has been through it"-

the Lord Jesus Christ will pass through it and be born in the flesh. EZ 44:2


If these men named James, Judas, Simon , and Josph were sons of Mary and brothers of Jesus then they are the
natural sons of Joseph, if their fathers was Joseph, the husband of Mary.


But we can read in the bible that there were only two persons names James.

The first James was the brother of St. John the beloved apostle, both are the sons of ZEBEDEE mAT 10:2

and the other James was the brother of Judas; these men were the sons of Alpheus ang the namw Alpheus in GREEK

IS CLEOPHAS -luke 6:15-16


Another proof based on the bible is that these men named Judas and James who are said to be the brothers of Jesus

were from a different father who is Alpheus and not Joseph.


"On entering the city , they went to the room upstairs where they were staying .

Present there were Peter ,John James Andrew ,Philip , Thomas Bartolimew ,Matthew and James son of Alpheus;

Simon the Zealot and judas, son of James" (Acts 1:13).

And as to Joseph it can be seen clearly as to whos was his mother. It was not Mary who was the mother of Jesus.


Mark the evangelist has this to say," there were also some women watching from a distance; among them were

Mary Magdalene, Mary the Mother of James the younger and Joseph and Salome" Mark 15:40


Let us remember that these women were far from the cross where Jesus was nailed.

While they were going nearer the cross , one can see that there stood Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ,at the

foot of the cross, and this other Mary the aunt of Jesus. "Near the cross of Jesus stood His mother, His mother's

sister Mary, who was the wife of CLEOPHAS, and MARY OF MAGDALENE -jOHN 19:25.


AS it is alredy said from the start that this Mary, who is the sister of the mother of Jesus, is the wife

of CLEOPHAS, which is GREEK term for ALPHEUS who is the father of James, Judas and Joseph.

Now it is clear that these men were just cousins of Jesus.not brothers who are of the same mother and father.

The old testament said that the Jews customarily practiced calling brother those of the nearest kin but not

necessarily brother in the FLESH.

ABRAHAM calls LOT who is his nephew, BROTHER. GEN 29:13-15

ST PAUL CALLS ALL HIS NEAREST RELATIVES AS BROTHERS ROM 9:3



The jews do not have a word for cousins , uncle,auntie, or GRANDFATHER-, only FATHER-AB and MOTHER-ACK

their vocabulary was very limited- that is why they adopted the GREEK writing and reading during the

HELLENISTIC PERIOD-GREEK INFLUENCE ON THEM.

Thus it was unavoidable that during the time of Jesus ,a ll cousins and realtives were also called brothers and
sisters.

And even in the masuretic manuscripts-(HEBREW) WE WILL FIND THAT ABSENCE OF VOWELS AND PUNCTUATIONS.


LUKE NOT A JEW WHO WROTE TO THE GENTILES- had to be specific- HE CALLED THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS

AS HIS "RELATIVES"- but on the subsequent verse we will find because this was in JERUSALEM- A JEW REPLIED

as LUKE quoted him in his gospel- "HERE ARE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS"- which LUKE earlier describes as

"HIS RELATIVES"

WHILE MATTHEW A JEW WROTE IN HIS GOSPEL "the brothers and sisters of JESUS "

bOTH WERE WRITIN ON THAT SIMILAR INCIDENT IN THEIR GOSPELS


Another strong indication that Jesus had not brother in the flesh is that while Jesus was dying on the cross,

he commended his mother to St. John , the youngest apostle, And from that day on John took Mary into his own home

John 19:27, if JESUS had a younger brother why is that Jesus did not turn his Mother over to him and let them go
home because during that time Joseph his foster father was already dead. It was also customary to the Jews by Law

that the second child must take care of his widowed father or mother.


Instead he he left his mother to the care of John the apostle that he loved indicating that Jesus had no brother

nor a sister.

This is a blasphemous attack on the BLESSED VIRGIN MARY TO SAY THAT SHE HAD MANY CHILDREN IN THE FLESH

THUS SAYS THE BIBLE-

Sunday, January 17, 2010

Viva Santo Nino!






    Infant Jesus of Prague

 
Santo Nino De Tondo Parish

Maligayang Kapistahan Mahal na Poong Santo Nino! 

Photo Credit: Katoliko Ako

Saturday, January 16, 2010

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In Christ,


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Friday, January 15, 2010

Peter In Rome

Source: National Geographic Magazine

JESUS IS NOT A TRUE MAN BY ELI SORIANO AS TOLD BY MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ


TEEWEE WRITES


JOCELYN -

PALAGAY KO KAYO NA ANG MAGUSAP DITO NI MICHEAL RYAN

ISANG ADD NA AVID FAN NI SORIANO- GRADUATE NG SORIANO UNIVERSITY SA APALIT

ISANG BAGONG THEOLEGIAN - GENETIC SCIENTIST AT ABOGADO PA-

A PRACTIONER OF SORIANOLOGY

"WHAT IS SAID TODAY IS DIFFERENT FROM YESTERDAY AND WILL BE DIFFERENT AGAIN TOMORROW"


TANDAAN NYO YAN- ALTHOUGH ANG KAUNA UNAHANG DOCTRINA NI SORIANO TO VALIDATE HIS CLAIM

AS AN ORGANIZATION ASIDE FROM THE ONE WITH THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE AND COMMISSION BEING A

REGISTERED CULT WHOSE NATURE OF BUSINESS IS TO PROPAGATE THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST IS THIS:


"THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THIS AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THAT" ANG MGA PARI AY BOBO AT LAHAT NG GINAGAWA NG

KATOLIKO AY MALI- PERO WALANG MAPATUNAYAN IF CONFRONTED - MAG TATAGO- MAG HAHAMON AT MAG TATAGO DIN PALA

KASI NGA WALA SIYANG DOCTRINANG NAKASULAT- HINDI KASI MARUNONG MAGSULAT AT HINDI MAGSUSULAT PARA MABAGO

NANAMAN NIYA- AT SISIGAW NG HINDI YAN! HINDI YAN! NG MAIPIT SIYA NG INC SA NAPAKA WALANG KA KWENTA KWENTANG

PAKSA- ANG BESO BESO. SA YABANG KASI NITO AT SA DAMI NG PALIWANAG SA BESO BESO- HINDI TULOY NIYA MALAMAN KUNG

ANO ANG ISASAGOT NIYA.


LAHAT GALING SA BIBIG NIYA NA NAG CHA CHA CHA MAGALAW - MEANING

PABAGO BAGO , STEP TO THE LEFT AND STEP TO THE RIGHT ,ATRAS ABANTE . BULTO BULTO ITONG MGA KONTRAHANG MGA ITO - AT

ITO AY MGA NASA CD BINABASAG PARA HINDI SIYA MAQUOTE MULA NG TINIKTIKAN SIYA NG INC


AT INATAKE SA KANILANG PROGRAMA SA NET 25. AT ANG PALUSOT NIYA- AY ILAGAY NA LANG SA CD PARA BABASAGIN

NA LANG - GIVING HIM THE LICENSE TO SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS WHICH IS NOW VERY EVIDENT IN WHAT THIS MICHAEL

IS SAYING




NOW LET US LOOK AT THE REASONING OF THIS NEW GENETIC SCIENTIST, LAWYER, OB GYNE DAHIL SA

MAY ALAM PA ITO SA REPRODUCTIVE CAPABILITY NG TAO AND ALSO A COMEDIAN ESTE THEOLEGIAN DAW

BY THE NAME OF MICHAEL RYAN


ANG ARGUMENT NI MICHAEL

Jocelyn my answer is for you. Correction po, Jesus Christ did not took the flesh and blood of Mary. Yes His human


body was born out of Mary but the body was not from Mary. Read what the Angel Gabriel said in Luke 1:34-35. The


body of the Lord Jesus Christ is not because of Mary but because of the power of the Holy Spirit sent to her from


God.Malinaw pong nasa talata na sinabi ni Gabriel, " ang banal na bagay na ipanganganak ay tatawaging Anak ng


Dios." Yun pong banal na bagay na tinutukoy ay yun pong NASA katawan na ipanganganak at hindi po yung katawang


ipanganganak. Ang nasa katawan po ay ang Cristo na Anak ng Dios. I personally believe po na hindi ito dahil sa DNA


ni Mary dahil naturally, kailangan pong may "makilala biblically o magsama" ang isang babae at lalake para magka-


anak at magtaglay ng DNA nila. Si Mary po mismo ang nagsabi na kailanman, wala po syang nakilalang lalaki. We have


to remember po na the Holy Spirit can also create because He came from God. And since the body of the Lord Jesus


Christ came to be not because of DNA but because of the power of the Holy Spirit according to the Bible, lalo po


nitong pinatitibay ang aking pananampalataya na ang Panginoong Jesucristo po ay HINDI tunay na tao. SYA PO AY DIOS


NA NAGKATAWANG TAO. Salamat po Jocelyn sa comment mo.

---------

TEEWEE'S COMENT

ON THE ABOVE STATEMENT OF THIS GENETIC SCIENTIST MICHAEL



UNANG UNA MICHAEL ANG TAMANG INGLIS AY "JESUS CHRIST DID NOT TAKE hindi did not "took"- dahil past tense na ang


verb na "DID" NA GINAMIT MO- magaral ka muna ng tamang English- sa isang GRAMMATICIAN sabi ni SORIANO

BALIKWAS KA NANAMAN SA SINABI MO- "YES HE IS HUMAN" - O HUMAN NAMAN PALA- SA previous statement mo sabi mo hindi-

dahil ba baka banatan ka ni JOCELYN isang ADD DIN-



STATEMENT NI MICHAEL

"but the body was not from MARY" - AH KUNG GANUN- kanino nanggaling ang katawan mo? saan ka nanggaling ha MICHAEL-
putok ka ba sa buho- your BODY IS NOT FROM YOUR MOTHERS WOMB? -


TEEWEE COMMENT

ang holy spirit ba buong katawan ang inilagay nito sa sinapupunan ni MARIA? - AT GINAWA LANG NA INCUBATION WOMB
ANG KAY MARY?-

WALA NAMANG SINABI SA GOSPEL NA MAY DALANG KATAWAN ANG ANGEL- PARA IPA INCUBATE SA WOMB NI MARY - MERON BA

gaano ka tagal MICHAEL? PARANG MANOK ANO?

tapos born of MARY? - ANONG SAGOT ITO? nagmana ka na kay eli kinontra mo na ang sinabi mo agad.


ANOTHER DISASTROUS STATEMENT OF MICHAEL

Read what the Angel Gabriel said in Luke 1:34-35. The body of the Lord Jesus Christ is not because of Mary but

because of the power of the Holy Spirit sent to her from God.Malinaw pong nasa talata na sinabi ni Gabriel, " ang

banal na bagay na ipanganganak ay tatawaging Anak ng Dios." Yun pong banal na bagay na tinutukoy ay yun pong NASA

katawan na ipanganganak at hindi po yung katawang ipanganganak.



COMMENT NI TEEWEE

NGAYON HINDI NA TAO O DIYOS ANG ITINAWAG NI MICHAEL KAY BABY JESUS NA NASA TIYAN NI MARIA-

ITO AY ISA NG BAGAY NGAYON- JUST A THING- NAPAKABASTOS TALAGA NITO-

ANG ISANG BAGAY TAKE NOTE ISANG BANAL NA BAGAY AY TATAWAGING DIYOS- ANG DIYOS AY BAGAY NA LANG PALA - HINDI AKO

MATIGIL SA KATATAWA SA COMEDIAN NA ITO JUST LIKE HIS TEACHER.

IT TAKES THE MIND OF AN IDIOT to UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IDIOT IS SAYING BECAUSE I CAN NOT REALLY DECIPHER WHAT THIS IDIOT IS SAYING.

CAN YOU?


MICHAEL THE COMEDIAN AN ADD WRITES

" Yun pong banal na bagay na tinutukoy ay yun pong NASA katawan na ipanganganak at hindi po yung katawang

ipanganganak."


TEEWEE COMMENT

SO SA PALIWANAG NITO NI MICHEAL AY MAY BANAL NA BAGAY PALA NA KASAKASAMA ANG KATAWAN NI JESUS SA SINAPUPUNAN NI

MARIA?

NA HINDI NAMAN NIYA MAIPALIWANAG KUNG ANO ITO KASI TINAWAG LANG NA DIYOS- ANOTHER MALABO NANAMAN ITO

SO NANGANGAHULUGAN ANG KATAWN NI JESUS AY HINDI BANAL- ANG HINDI BANAL AT BANAL AY NGAYON NAGSAMA NA-
SO PWEDE NGAYON GUMAWA ANG KATAWAN NG MASAMA DAHIL HINDI ITO BANAL-

GUMAWA PALA ANG DIYOS NG KATAWAN NA HINDI TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ANO? AT KATAWAN PA NA GINAMIT NI JESUS
AT HINDI ITO BANAL- KAY JESUS PA ANG HINDI BANAL- YUNG BAGAY LANG DAW- NA HINDI MAIPALIWANAG

ANG BANAL NA BAGAY SA KATAWAN NI JESUS AY MAY SARILING PAGIISIP SA KATAWAN NIYA NA HINDI BANAL- AT PWEDE ITONG

HUMIWALAY SA KANYA KAHIT NA KELAN- AT ANO NAMAN ANG KALALABASAN NG KATAWAN NI JESUS PAG ITO HUMIWALAY-
SINO KAYA ITONG KATAWAN NA ITO- ANO BA ANG TUNAY NA PAGKATAO NITO? baka si ZOMBIE? katawan lang kasi NA HINDI BANAL walang kaluluwa, MABUBUHAY BA ITO PAG INIWANAN NG BANAL NA BAGAY-

ANO NAMAN ANG PAGKATAO NITONG KALALABASAN NITO PAG NAWALA ANG BANAL NA BAGAY NA SINASABI NI MICHAEL-
ITO BA AY TATAYO AT MAKAKAUSAP DIN O MAG COCOLAPSE NA LANG PAG NAWALA ANG BANAL NA BAGAY- ANO NAMAN
ANG SASABIHIN NIYA ANG PANAGALAN NIYA- KASI YUNG TATAWAGIN JESUS NA DIYOS AY PWEDIN HUMIWALAY SA KATAWAN NA ITO

HINDI NAMAN ITO NAGSALITA SA GOSPEL AT NAGPAKILALA KUNG SINO SIYA- KILALANG KILALA yata NI ELI SORIANO ITO-


YOU GO YOUR WAY ANG I GO MY WAY PAG SIGURO NAGUUSAP ANG BANAL NA BAGAY SA KATAWANG ISINOUT NIYA. GANON ANG GUSTONG

IPALABAS NI SORIANO- PARANG KOTSENG SINAKYAN LANG.

O KAYA ISANG KATAWAN NA MAY ZIPPER AT ISINOOT LANG NG BANAL NA BAGAY NA TINAWAG NA DIYOS!!!

KAYA ANG LAHAT NG SINABI NI JESUS SA GOSPEL AY GALING SA BANAL NA BAGAY AYON KAY MICHAEL

EH ANO NAMAN ANG IPINAKO MICHAEL? ANG KATAWAN LANG PALA-

ANG BANAL NA BAGAY AY NAKILITI LANG ITO DAHIL HINDI ITO NAKARANAS NG LUPIT NA GINAWA SA KATAWAN-NA TINAWAG NA

KATAWANG ISINOUT LANG NI JESUS-

NAPAKALUPIT PALA NG DIYOS- GUMAWA NG ISANG ZOMBIE NA KATAWAN PARA PAGLARUAN AT BIGYAN LAHAT NG KAHIRAPAN BEYOND A
HUMAN MIND CAN IMAGINE TAPOS DRAMA LANG PALA- WALANG PERSONALIDAD- DAHIL KATAWAN LANG ITO

HINDI DIN PALA NABAYARAN ANG PAGKAKAUTANG NG SANGKATAUHAN SA KANYA DAHIL PEKE PALA ANG PINAMBAYAD NIYA.

TUMATANGGAP PALA ANG DIYOS NG PEKENG KABAYARAN.

HINDI PALA NATUTUBOS ANG SANGKATAUHAN KUNG GANON-

EH MICHAEL BAKIT NUNG UMAKYAT SI JESUS SA LANGIT- HINDI NIYA IPINARK ANG KOTSENG GINAMIT NIYA O KATAWANG ISINOOT

NIYA HINDI NIYA HINANGER MUNA -

BAKIT ISINAMA NIYA ANG KATAWAN NIYA SA LANGIT?

TANDAAN MO NOTHING UNCLEAN CAN ENTER HEAVEN- AT HINDI BANAL ANG KATAWAN NI JESUS- SO NO ENTRY TO HEAVEN-

EH UMAKYAT ANG KATAWAN EH- HINDI INIWANAN

BAKA NAMAN NAGPA CARWASH NA YUNG KOTSE - O NALIGO NG HUSTO ANG KATAWAN NA GINAMIT NI JESUS

ANO KAYA SA TINGIN NINYO?

MGA KAIBIGAN- KAYO NA LANG PO ANG MAGBIGAY NG MGA KATANUNGAN NINYO DAHIL HINDI AKO MATIGIL SA KATATAWA SA SINABI
NG TAONG SI MICHAEL NA ITO

SI MARIA NAMAN AY ISANG DELIVERY VAN LANG - NG MAIDELIVER ANG BANAL BAGAY AT NA PANGANAK ANG KATAWAN AY TAPOS NA ANG PAPEL NIYA

GANUN PO LALABAS ANO

GANYAN BA ANG PAGIISIP NG MGA KASAPI SA INYO JOCELYN??

IKAW JOCELYN HINDI BA BANAL ANG KATAWAN MO?- A TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT- IKAW NA ANG TINANONG KO PARA MAKAKUHA
AKO NG MATINONG SAGOT. BAKA MAHAWA AKO KAY MICHEAL EH. BUTI PA ANG MGA KATAWAN NATIN TEMPLE OF THE HLY SPIRIT
AT BANAL- KAY JESUS HINDI ITO BANAL, YUNG BAGAY LANG AT ITANONG MO KAY MICHAEL ANO IYON.


ANOTHER DISASTROUS STATEMENT THIS TIME COMING FROM THE GENETIC SCIENTIST MICHAEL RYAN THE COMEDIAN

I personally believe po na hindi ito dahil sa DNA ni Mary dahil naturally, kailangan pong may "makilala

biblically o magsama" ang isang babae at lalake para magka-anak at magtaglay ng DNA nila. Si Mary po mismo ang

nagsabi na kailanman, wala po syang nakilalang lalaki. We have to remember po na the Holy Spirit can also create

because He came from God. And since the body of the Lord Jesus Christ came to be not because of DNA but because of

the power of the Holy Spirit according to the Bible, lalo po nitong pinatitibay ang aking pananampalataya na ang

Panginoong Jesucristo po ay HINDI tunay na tao. SYA PO AY DIOS NA NAGKATAWANG TAO. Salamat po Jocelyn sa comment

mo.



TEEWEES COMMENT ON THE STATEMENT OF THIS COMEDIAN GENETIC SCIENTIST WHICH IS MICHAEL


STATEMENT NI MICHEAL NA ISANG GENETIC SCIENTIST NAMAN DAW

" I personally believe po na hindi ito dahil sa DNA ni Mary dahil naturally, kailangan pong may "makilala

biblically o magsama" ang isang babae at lalake para magka-anak at magtaglay ng DNA nila. Si Mary po mismo ang

nagsabi na kailanman, wala po syang nakilalang lalaki."



TEEWEE'S REPLY

"KAILANGANG DAW MAY MAKASAMA ANG ISANG BABAE BIBLICALLY-"

michael-

kaya nga ibinigay ni JESUS SI JOSEPH - KAY MARIA AT IPINASABI SA ANGEL NA IPINADALA NIYA

PARA SAMAHAN NIYA SI MARIA- BECAUSE UNMARRIED WOMEN UNDER THE MOSAIC LAW THAT ARE IMPREGNATED

AND CONCEIVES A CHILD WILL BE STONED TO DEATH ADULTERY ANG KASALANAN MO. AND JOSEPH WHO WAS A RIGHTEOUS MAN KNOWS THIS - AND EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS THAT IT WAS NOT HIS CHILD THAT MARY WAS CARRYING HE DECIDED TO TAKE MARY AS HIS WIFE. - BECAUSE OF THE HARSH MOSAIC LAW.



ANG DNA AY ANG SIYANG NAGBIBIGAY NG STRUCTURA NG ISANG FETUS NASA SA SINAPUPUNAN NA DINADALA NG ISANG NANAY

KUNG ANO ANG MAGIGING ANYO NITO AT AT ANG MGA CHARACTERISTICS NG IKALALABAS NG BATA AT SA PAGLAKI NITO AYON SA

PINAGTUBUAN NITONG SINAPUPUNAN-

ANG HINDI LANG NAIBIBIGAY NG DNA AY AY MAGIGING GENDER NITO-

DIYOS NA ANG TANUNGIN MO KUNG BAKIT BABAE O LALAKI ANG LALABAS NA FETUS. ITANONG MO NA DIN KAY SORIANO KUNG

BAKIT LALAKI O BABAE ANG LALABAS- AT ITANONG MO NA DIN KUNG BAKIT MAY MGA BAKLANG LUMALABAS O TOMBOY KAYA.

ALAM MO NAMAN YAN- HE KNOWS EVERYTHING WRONG EH.


KAYA IBIGAY MO SA AKIN ANG TALATANG ISANG FETUS NA GINAWA NG HOLY SPIRIT AT YUN ANG IPINUNLA NG ANGEL
SA TIYAN NI MARIA PARA HINDI ITO MAGTAGLAY NG DNA NI MARIA- ANTAYIN KO ANG TALATA MO GAGO



WALANG IMPOSSIBLE SA DIYOS NA KILALA KO KAY MAY BABAE O LALAKI PARA SA PROCREATION NG SANKATUHAN MAGAGAWA NIYA

KAHIT NA NGA WALANG BABAE O LALAKE MAKAKAGAWA SIYA NG TAO- SA PAMAMGITAN NG LUPA GUMAWA SIYA NG TAO-

KAHIT NA NGA WALANG LUPA MAKAKAGAWA SIYA NG TAO.

DOON NALAMAN NI MARIA NA KAHIT NA WALANG LALAKE AY MAKAPAGBUBUNTIS SIYA- AT KAHIT NA DELIKADO ANG MAGBUNTIS SIYA

DAHIL SA BATAS- HINDI NAG ALINLANGAN SI MARIA AT SUMANGAYON SIYA AGAD SA IBINALITA NG ANGEL- DAHIL SA LAKI NG

PANANAMPALATAYA NIYA AT PUNONG PUNO SIYA NG GRASYA NG DIYOS- AT HINDI SIYA NATATAKOT GAYA NI SORIANO

KAYA "OO" AGAD ANG SINAGOT NIYA NA WALANG ALINLANGAN.


IF GOD IS WITH MARY YOU WHO CAN BE AGAINST HER-



ANOTHER DISASTROUS STATEMENT OF MICHAEL THE GENETIC SCIENTIST


"We have to remember po na the Holy Spirit can also create

because He came from God. And since the body of the Lord Jesus Christ came to be not because of DNA but because of

the power of the Holy Spirit according to the Bible, lalo po nitong pinatitibay ang aking pananampalataya na ang

Panginoong Jesucristo po ay HINDI tunay na tao. SYA PO AY DIOS NA NAGKATAWANG TAO. Salamat po Jocelyn sa comment

mo."


TEEWEE REPLY

BEFORE JESUS WENT TO HEAVEN- HE SAID THE PARACLETE OR THE HOLY SPIRIT - THE GUIDE TO THE TRUTH AND THE GIVER OF
LIFE-

SA GENESIS PA LANG MABABASA NA ITO- GOD BREATHED THE HOLY SPIRIT INTO THE NOSTRILS OF ADAM THAT HE CREATED FROM DUST AND IMMEDIATELY IT CAME TO LIFE.

SO EVERY HUMAN BEING THAT HAS LIFE CAME FROM GOD BECAUSE IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT GIVES LIFE STARTING FROM
ADAM WHICH WAS BREATHED TO HIS NOSTRILS- THE HOLY SPIRIT THE GIVER OF LIFE SABI NI JESUS HEHEH


IT IS NOT THE DNA THAT GIVES LIFE BUT THE SOUL THAT IS GIVEN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT THE GIVER OF LIFE-
ONCE A BODY DIES THE SOUL LEAVES THE BODY AND RETURNS TO GOD TO BE JUDGED- IT IS UP TO GOD TO RETURN
THAT SOUL THAT WILL MAKE THE BODY LIVE AGAIN-

NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD-

HE CAN MAKE HIMSELF HUMAN EVEN WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A HUMAN PARENT OR BEING CONCEIVED IN THE WOMB-

SINCE WALANG AMA SI JESUS NA KAHATI SA KATAWAN NIYA MEANING NO CONTRIBUTION FROM A HUMAN FATHER

JESUS WAS CONCEIVED IN THE HUMAN BODY OF MARY - SO THEREFOR ALL THE DNA OF JESUS IN HIS FLESH

CAME FROM MARY- AND DNA IS THE PROGRAM OF A HUMAN BODY THAT WILL GUIDE THE HUMAN BODY AS TO SHAPE AND THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE HUMAN DONOR HIS PARENTS AS IT DEVELOPES IN THE WOMB AND OUTSIDE THE BODY AS IT GROWS INTO
ADULTHOOD

TAKING THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE HUMAN DONOR OR ITS PARENT WHICH WILL BE EVIDENT IN THE PROCREATED

BODY THAT WAS CONCEIVED IN HER WOMB.

HINDI NAMAN PO SINAKSAK ANG FETUS NI JESUS NG ANGEL KAY MARIA ANG FETUS NA GALING SA LANGIT NA GUSTONG

PALABASIN NI MICHAEL SA ARGUMENTO NIYA- BAKIT DADAAN PA SA PAGKA BABY SI JESUS- BAKIT HINDI NA LANG

ISANG ADULT AGAD- HINDI BA MAGAGAWA ITO NG DIYOS- NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH HIM


AS DEMONSTRATED BY ELIJAH WHO PRAYED TO GOD FOR THE RETURN OF THE SOUL OF THE DEAD BOY- I KINGS 17:21-22

ITONG ATING GENETIC SCIENTIST CUM COMEDIAN NA SI MICHAEL AY MALI MALI NANAMAN KASI ANG AMO NIYA AY

PARATING MALI

HINDI DIN MAIPALIWANAG NI GENIUS MICHAEL ANG BANAL NA BAGAY NA IBINIGAY NG ESPIRITU SANTO AT ITO AY TINAWAG

NA DIYOS

KUNG HINDI TUNAY NA TAO DIN SI JESUS SIYA AY TAU TAUHAN LANG PALA-

SA INC SI JESUS AY HINDI TUNAY NA DIYOS- AT KAY ELI NAMAN NA NAKIKITA SA PANGANGATWIRAN NI MICHAEL

SI JESUS AY HINDI TUNAY NA TAO- ANO NAMAN KAYA ITONG HINDI TUNAY NA TAO?

PLASTIC BA ITO O SYNTHETIC O ZOMBIE O ISANG MUTANT-

GAYA NG SINABI NI FIX ME- NAGUGUTOM - UMIYAK- NALUNGKOT- DINUGO - AT NAMATAY- AT NAGAGALAK

ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF A HUMAN BEING- AT NAPAPATAY DIN ANG KATAWAN NIYA-

TSK TSK-

HINDI TUNAY NA TAO SA ADD - SA INC HINDI TUNAY NA DIYOS-

EH NAGKITA SILA SA GITNA- PAREHO PALA ANG PANIWALA NILA- BAKLA AND PANIWALA NILA-

SO THERE IS SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH THE TWO HINDI NILA ALAM AT NAG AAWAY PA SILA-

MEDYO MEDYO -

ANG DIYOS NAGBIGAY NG PEKENG TAO NA SI JESUS KASI HINDI TUNAY SABI NI SORIANO AT NI MICHAEL

ANG HILIG NINYO SA PEKE- GALING SA PEKENG MANGANGARAL

NGAYON JOCELYN SANGAYON KA BA SA PALIWANAG NG KASAMA MO O HINDI-

NGAYON KUNG SANG AYON KA -

IKAW KAYA ANG MAGPALIWANAG KASI HINDI NAMIN MAINTINDIHAN AT WALANG KA LOHICA LOHICA ANG SINABI NITONG

MICHAEL NA ITO

SUBUKAN MO NAMAN KAYANG IPALIWANAG ANG HINDI TUNAY NA PAGKATAO NI JESUS BAKA KAYA MO -

PARANG SECOND OPINION KA NAMAN OKAY

MERON SUSUNOD PA

MICHAEL PASISIKATIN KITA SA BUONG MUNDO DAHIL SA KATWIRANG MONG YAN SA BLOG

PAG HINDI KA ININTINDI - EH SORI NA LANG ME DIPERENSIYA KA NA SIGURO

COZ THEY DID NOT TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY OR YOU ARE A BIG JOKE

ANG KATWIRAN NG ISANG ADD SA FACEBOOK NA SI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ


SAGOT NI TEEWEE SA POST NI MICHEL RYAN


STATEMENT NI MICHAEL RYAN

Oo bagsak ang science mo dahil hindi bituka ang nagdudugtong ng sanggol sa ina nya.Siguro po mag-aral ka ng anatomy kasi wala yan sa biology, ang tawag sa yo PANGAHAS NA WALANG NALALAMANG ANUMAN KUNDI MAY SAKIT SA MGA USAPAN.Magmamarunong ka lang po eh palpak pa. Sa sinoman po na sincere sa paghanap ng totoo, eto po ang sagot ng kapatid na Eli na sagot ko rin, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfHA-wl9qI at sa tanong po naisa pa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzhcCGwAfo8&feature=relat ed



TEEWEE's COMMENT

NAMIMILOSOPO LANG PO SI MICHAEL RYAN SA ISINAGOT NG ISANG KATOLIKO NA SI FIX ME - ANG IBIG SABIHIN NITO
NA MAGKARUGTONG ANG BITUKA NG INA AT SANGGOL SA SINAPUPUNAN AY ANG INA KUNG DI KAKAIN HINDI DIN KAKAIN ANG BATA-

AT PAREHO SILANG MAMAMATAY- TINALUNAN NA LANG NITONG MICHAEL ANG PAGKAKATAON DAHIL IPIT NA IPIT NA ITONG
SUPER TALINONG TAONG ITO SA KATWIRAN NIYA

YUN LANG PO ANG IBIG NIYANG SABIHIN - KASI ANG WALANG KATWIRAN AT UBOS NA
PATI TUTONG FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING AY KINAKAIN NA DIN. KAYA PATI TUTONG SA SINAING AY PINATULAN NA NI MICHAEL
RYAN.

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Thursday, January 14, 2010

Is Christ A Man Or God?


TIGNAN NATIN KUNG ANONG KLASENG THEOLOGY ANG ITINURO NI INGKONG SA MGA NALOKO NIYA.

ITO ANG SABI NG NG KANYANG MEMBER NA SI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ. BASAHIN PO NATIN.

Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.A person who denies this is a liar to himself, 1 John 2:22-23 and is an antichrist.For those who doubt this, please allow an understanding I learned from my preachers, Brother Eli and Brother Daniel.Christ existed with God the Father even before there was time.He spoke of this in Proverbs 8:22-31 as the Wisdom of God. Now to further prove it, 1 Corinthians 1:24 says Christ is the power and the wisdom of God.This person who is speaking is the Wisdom of God, who is also Christ, said in verse 22 " The Lord(God the Father) possessed me(Christ) in the beginning of His way, BEFORE HIS WORKS OF OLD( Nothing was there except the 2 of them, The Father and the Son). Truly a person to be present with God the Father whenever it was, can only be a person like Himself, a God.

I'm sorry.But from what I've learned, you will not find a verse in the Bible that Jesus Christ is true God AND TRUE MAN. What you will find is, the Lord Jesus Christ is a true God who came in the flesh and coming IN the flesh does not mean that HE is flesh like man. A simple logic, When you come to a place using a car, you came there IN the car, you are not the car. I'm sorry, I understand you, I was once a catholic and believed what you believe about Christ. But I thank God for opening my understanding to His teachings through the preachings of Bro. Eli Soriano and Bro. Daniel Razon. I was once blind but now I can see!

I thank God for giving me the chance to see what I formerly don't see, to know the truth from lies but most importantly to be able to live the rest of my life in His service. People around the world are still seeking for the answers to the questions, " What is the meaning of life or essence of living in this world? What is my purpose? Where am I heading and what is the end? What lies ahead of my journey, what am I destined to be?Etc...?" God gave me the answers to these questions through the preachings of Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon. And knowing the answer to these questions people of all walks of life were striving to know, are, I would say, gifts from God that should be lived and kept in faith.
We in the Church of God are blessed to have the only God-send preachers in this time. To learn from their teachings, whether by their lectures or the examples of their lives. I can confidently,contently, and faithfully say that every detail in the lives of Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon is part of God's teachings of the Gospel, nothing goes to waste. Even when at times they don't speak, just by mere looking at their works, God is still teaching us of goodness, holiness and righteousness,may not be written literally in the Bible, but is through the working of the Holy Spirit Who dwells in them. The work of God's Spirit in them is without measure.

I'm sorry to say this but you are wrong. You used John 1:14 wrongly. If I will follow your logic here, you said, "here in this verse the God became flesh!!and human has flesh.. so therefore Jesus is Human also.." it will be misleading. Why? because based on your claim that human HAS flesh and God became flesh, it will led to the conclusion that God is human? I'm sorry, but your logic is wrong. Not all logic is logical, I learned from my preachers that illogical logic is called fallacy. Claiming that the Lord Jesus Christ is God and also human is wrong. John 1:14 said that the WORD became flesh...I would like to share what Brother Eli said once, "Being able to read a verse should not lead you to the conclusion that it is the content of the whole Bible, it's just a verse and not the whole Bible." Seeing the tip of an iceberg from afar doesn't mean that what you saw is the actual size of the iceberg, it's a lot bigger at the bottom.
My point is not because you read John 1:14, doesn't mean that what you think is the actual truth of it. Actually, based on the wordings you used, my answer is there, "And the Word BECAME flesh..." So the Word is not flesh, He just BECAME flesh. The original greek word for this is GINOMAI which means to cause to be or to become. When you say "to cause to be" it means CHANGE. I hope you understand that. When the Word became flesh, the Word underwent change to be in the flesh but not that He is flesh. Why does this have to be necessary? Based on what I've learned from my preachers, Christ has to undergo change for the flesh body to contain Him. Remember, Christ is also a God and being in that nature, He is far glorious than all creations. And He used that flesh body as a vehicle or vessel to teach man and to save us from our sins.
I'm not saying that you can just rely on my answer. NO! I'm just a worthless member in the Church of God who is sharing to you sincerely what I learned from my preachers. Brother Eli and Brother Daniel are the best persons to ask your questions because they are the messengers of God. I'm just a nobody.

I'm sorry Kuroro, I'm not in the position to discuss with you.Just like what I said awhile ago, I'm just a member in the Church of God, a nobody. I'm not a malapert kind of person. It's useless to discuss or share the gospel to people who are not looking for answers for the reason of the hope that is in the Church of God. I noticed that you are just asking for useless talk, I'm sorry but I have no time for that. I sense that whatever verse or information we share to you, you will just insist your own so called "theology".
In situations such as this, God commanded us, " But shun profane babblings: for they will proceed further in ungodliness, and their word will eat as doth a gangrene:" and " But foolish and ignorant questionings refuse, knowing that they gender strifes." 1 Timothy 2:16-17, 23.
Our God is commanding us to refuse foolish and ignorant questionings, like yours. If you want a debate or discussion, tell your pastor, preist or whatever you call your religious leaders to challenge our preacher in the Church of God, Brother Eli Soriano. I'm sorry if they will just disappoint you, they will not and will never come out to defend your faith.

I'm so sorry again Kuroro, please let me correct the verse I gave you. It's from 2 Timothy 2:16-17,23. May I site again a verse that is not far from the previous verses. Please look at 2 Timothy 2:14, " Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them in the sight of the Lord, that they strive not about words, to no profit, to the subverting of them that hear."
The intent of not involving ourselves to foolish and ignorant questionings that lead to strife is for the benefit of those that hear, not to be the cause of their downfall. And also it's for our benefit in the Church of God, in that by not involving ourselves to such, we will not err from the truth and will also not cause the overthrow of the faith of some of our members. It's in 2 Timothy 2:17-18, " and their word will eat as doth a gangrene: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; men who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some." With God's help and guidance, I will not intend and follow in the examples of these evil people, Hymenaeus and Philetus.
I hope you understand. If you are asking for reason or righteousness, or the hope that we have in the Church of God, I will gladly spare some of my time and share what I've learned from my preachers, Brother Eli Soriano and Brother Daniel Razon.

TEEWEE'S ANSWER:

michael you have no argument whatsoever-
you are just beating around the bush and citing eli soriano-

WHERE IS THE BEEF OF YOUR ARGUMENT? you cited a long one

but what is your point-?

You analogy is even very poor - Jesus did not come LIKE A CAR
If jesus did not come int the flesh the crucifixion is just a big moro moro thing

JESUS WAS NOT HURT IN FACT HE WAS TICKLED- BECAUSE YOU WILL NOW BE
SAYING HE IS GOD AND CAN ISOLATE THE PAIN- THEN YOU ARE AN ANTICHIRST

1 JOHN 4:2 how will you recognize the spirit of God? ANY SPIRIT RECOGNIZING JESUS AS THE CHRIST WHO HAS TAKEN OUR FLESH IS OF GOD.

YOUR ANALOGY OF YOU RIDING THE CAR IS ABSURD- AND HORRIBLE
WHEN THE CARS MOTOR FAILS TO RUN- DO YOU ALSO SAY YOU CAN NOT WALK- NO YOU GET OUT OF IT AND ASK FOR A MECHANIC OR HAVE IT TOWED- ANG LAYO PARE KO- ANO BA YAN

TAKEN OUR FLESH- read the gospel of JOHN THE VERSE WAS GIVEN ALREADY
READ JOHN 1:1-18 - he has taken our flesh and lived with us-
Like a natural man- who gets hurt , sweats and cries- and bleeds

or ELSE THE CRUCIFIXION WILL BE THE GREATEST MOCKERY THAT GOD
HAS EVEN DONE TO HIS PEOPLE- MORO MORO LANG YAN- OR DRAMA

THE COVENANT HAS TO BE SEALED BY BLOOD- AND ALL COVENANTS WERE
HEALED BY THE BLOOD OF ANIMALS-

SINCE JESUS WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE LAST AND EVERLASTING
COVENANT WHICH WAS THE GOSPEL- DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING

HE SEALED IT HIMSELF BY HIS BLOOD- THE LAMB WHO WILL TAKE AWAY
THE SINS OF THE WORLD- AND NO OTHER COVENANT FOLLOWS-

NO MORE PROPHETS NO MORE ANGELS AND NO MORE APOSTLES THAT WILL COME- TO TEACH ANOTHER KIND OF GOSPEL- ONLY THE ONE THAT HE LAID

READ 1 COR 3:10-15- THE FOUNDATION LAID BY CHRIST AND NO ONE SHOULD LAY ANOTHER


AND LUKE 16:16 no more prophets and no more mosaic law

IN FACT IT IS YOU WHO MUST BE AVOIDED- YOU ARE GIVING STUPID

REASONS AND THE VERSE THAT YOU GAVE ON 2 TIMOTHY IT IS ABOUT

USELESS CONVERSATIONS- AND YOU JUST STARTED ONE STUPID CONVERSATION

THE ISSUE WAS ABOUT CHRIST AS MAN A NATURAL MAN TOO-
AND NOT JUST A BODY THAT HE WORE-

HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE VIRGIN MARY - AND GREW UP JUST LIKE
YOU AND ME-

HE HAD TWO INSEPARABLE NATURES -ONE OF MAN AND GOD-

EPH- "HE SHED HIS DIVINITY AND TOOK THE FORM OF SERVANT"pHIL 2:6-8

IF JESUS WERE NOT TRULY MAN - HE SHOULD HAVE SHED THAT BODY WHEN
HE WENT TO HEAVEN

IT IS LIKE YOU RIDING THE CAR AGAIN- THE JESUS SHOULD HAVE PARKED
THE CAR LEFT IT ANG WENT TO HEAVEN- NOW WHAT WILL YOU SEE
WHEN HIS SPIRIT IS INVISIBLE- YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION

HE IS TRULY GOD AND TRULY HUMAN

FOOLISH CONVERSATION? or are you used up na?

PROVING JESUS TO BE A MAN IS NOT A FOOLISH CONVERSATION-

IN FACT IT IS IN THE BIBLE- 1 JOHN 4:2

AND HOW MANY TIMES DID HE SAY THAT HE IS THE SON OF MAN TOO

i thinks it is a heresy the one of NESTORIUS- or the NESTORIAN HERESY

THAT YOU ARE TEACHING- TALO NA YAN

IN FACT THE JEWS BELIEVED THAT HE IS ONLY A MAN- AND THE SON
OF A CARPENTER AND BORN OF A WOMAN NAMED MARY-

BUT HE WAS ASKED THIS QUESTION-

"SO YOU ARE THE CHRIST THE SON OF GOD?"- AND HE SAID
YES YOU ARE RIGHT I AM" JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED BECAUSE OF THIS
AND THE IGLESIA NI MANALO ARE UNHAPPY BECAUSE JESUS SAID
HE IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE JEWS ALSO KNOWS THAT SON OF GOD
IS GOD

ON THE OTHER HAND- HAD THE QUESTION BEEN

SO YOU ARE THE CHRIST THE SON OF MARY-?" JESUS WILL JUST REPLY
YES I AM- BECAUSE HE IS THE SON OF MARY- AND JESUS IS NOT A LIAR
AND HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SET FREE- NO MORE CRUCIFIXION AND SATAN
IS HAPPY.

AND THE INC OF MANALO WILL BE HAPPY TOO


BUT THE SANHEDRIN WANTED TO TRAP HIM- SO THEY ASKED OF HIS
DIVINITY- WHICH HE DID REPLY BY SAYING HE IS GOD

NOW MARY COULD HAVE RUN TO THE SANHEDRIN AND SAID TO THEM
BECAUSE CRUCIFIXION IS SUCH A HORRIBLE DEATH- IT IS DEATH BY
DROWNING WITHOUT WATER BECAUSE YOUR LUNGS ARE COMPRESSED

AND A MOTHER WILL LIE JUST EXTRICATE HIS SON FROM THE JAWS
OF DEATH-

BUT THE MOTHER KNOWS THE ROLE OF JESUS TO SAVE MAN FROM
HELL- THAT IS WHY THE CRUCIFIXION HAS TO TAKE PLACE-

IF I AM BLOTTED FROM THIS GROUP- "I LOVE YOU JESUS" IS THE GROUP
JUST MEET ME THERE

TAKOT YANG MGA KASAMA MO THEY HAVE ABANDONED ALL THEIR GROUPS
THAT WE KNOW


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego salamat po sa comment mo. Masasabi ko po, yung pong sinasabi mo ay interpretation lamang po ng mga pastor o ministro mong walang nalalamang anuman sa Panginoong Jusucristo. Sa nabasa ko po sa mga sinabi mo, hindi po katuwiran ang hinahanap mo kundi walang kabuluhang usapan na humahantong lamang po sa pagtatalo. I'm sorry, but what I said about Kuroro's intentions also applies to yours and my reply to him is the same with yours. Maintindihan mo man po o hindi, it's not my problem or obligation para magpaunawa sa mga tao pong hindi tatanggap ng paliwanag.
Hindi po ako narito para makipagtalo sa inyo ng mga kasama mo. I started with sharing light to the person who seems cannot understand what is being talked about and I stayed there. Then I noticed comments like yours na nag-aanyaya po ng pagtatalo, I'm very sorry. Kung gusto mo po ng diskusyon, kausapin mo po ang pastor mo na labanan ang kapatid na Eli sa diskusyon, sa TV, hindi po yung ikaw ang tatayo para sa kanya. Kung di ka naman po puno ng relehiyon, wala ka pong karapatan makipagtalo patungkol sa pananampalataya dahil TINUTURUAN KA LANG. Ang bagay na ito ay maluwag ko pong tanggap sa puso at sarili ko, ALAM KO PO KUNG SAAN AKO DAPAT LUMUGAR.

You sited 1 John 4:2, "This is how you can recognize God's Spirit: Every spirit who acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God."
Ang nakalagay po sa Bible, Jesus Christ has come IN THE FLESH hindi taken our flesh, ANG LAYO PARE MO. Kaya ka po naliligaw, gumagamit kayo ng translation na pabor lang po sa sarili nyong theology. Isa pa po, you are making me claim statements that you yourself said and I will never say. Sana po kung gusto mong mag-share at mag-dispute about what has been said, hwag mo po sanang i-dispute ang hindi naman po sinabi, at conlusion mo lang. Maniwala po kayo, kung sa totoong Korte po, talo ka po agad sa kaso dahil lalabas pong kasinungalingan ang inilalaban mo. I know this dahil po dito sa US, real court trials are being shown on TV at hindi man po kami experts, but we know the rules of argumentation. I'm sorry to say this pero honestly po, magulo po ang argumentation mo brother.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

BRO ANO PARATI KANG GANYAN PURO KWENTO LANG- HOW GOOD IS YOUR

INTERPRETATION - WHO AUTHORIZED YOU TO INTERPRET

TAKEN OUR FLESH- ANO BA YAN VERBAL ENGINEERIN NA BA YAN-

WHOSE FLESH DID HE TAKE-

DID HE NOT TAKE THE FLESH OF HIS MOTHER-

HE GREW INSIDE HIS MOTHERS WOMB

ABA ABOGADO KA BA?? sabihim mo nga kasi abogado ako

hiindi ka pala abogado - pagtatawanan ka lang ng huwes niyan

dishin out senseless ananlogies and interpretation-

tell me are you authorized to interpret- use the bible and tell me who are authorized-

akala mo magugulat mo ako

pastor ha- mga walang pinagaralan yan-

dun ka pumasok sa mga may pinagaraln

ilang versikulo lang eh akala mo me pinagaralan na

bro nambobola ka lang akala mo ba- natatawa ako sa mga pinagsasabi mo

this is an international forum- be careful of what you say

buti tinagalog mo- eh mapapahiya ka dian sa mga sinasabi mo-

ang haba haba ng mga sinasabi mo - walang laman

put beef in what you are sying ha

taken our flesh- became flesh- come into the flesh
are all the same in meaning- paiikutin mo pa ako

SIGE BABALIKAN KITA AT AYUSIN MO ANG SAGOT MO-

I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH SENSELESS STATEMENTS COMING FROM A PERSON

IT BOILS MY BLOOD- PLEASE DO NOT TREAT THE READERS AS IDIOTS-

IT VERY WELL GOES BACK TO YOU

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

brother, salamat po ulit sa comment mo. Pasensya ka na po, kahit naman po kasi kumulo ang dugo mo, the readers know what I'm trying to point out, ikaw lang ang di nakakaunawa kasi po di ka tumatanggap ng paliwanag. Malinaw po ang sinasabi ko and from what I know, a person who doesn't engage to useless talk such as what you are doing, is wiser than your kind. We members in the Church of God are not discussing to cause trouble or stir the faith of our fellow members but just to share sincerely the hope that is in us, only when asked.
Kung sinasabi mo pong walang beef sa sinabi ko, sa yo lang po yun. The readers know and can discern my intentions, although maybe, you are not one of them that can discern. Brother, sorry po, hindi ko po ibibigay sa yo ang katuwiran ng Dios na sagot para yurakan mo lang. The clarity in the Word of God is not for all people. My recommendation to you is ask your own pastor, the same disputes you're asking me or if you're not content of their answers, then it's best that you ask the only sensible preacher in our time, Brother Eli Soriano.Yun po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

haha si soriano ang pasagutin mo dito -

you have been beating around the bush - then take soriano and let him answer

him-

alm m wala kang nasasagot kanina pa eh

then what is the flesh of Jesus - iba nanaman ang pinasok mo
mukang naglolokohan lang yata tayo-

ah - ano kaya ang dugo ni Jesus bka synthethic blood-

tapos ang flesh niya soya beans extract ano-

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYANDELA CRUZ:

salamat po sa comment mo july. Pasensya ka na po pero yung sinabi mo po ay coupled ng tawa na walang karunungang sagot. You are mocking Christ and my preacher.Please, don't call me bro, hindi po tayo magkapatid.Sa mga kagaya mo po, wala po akong sagot na ibabahagi.yun po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

ang logic mo malayo- ang analogy mo malayo-

then give me the meaning of this three according to you interpretation

jesus came into the flesh

became flesh

and has taken our flesh

I want you to give you meaning of the three above mr wise guy?

loko ka iniscratch mo pa ako ha-

You know i have pasted every thing here and will attack in in BLOG

 SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego, you're going too far.You are already mocking My Lord Jesus Christ. Sana po yung kalokohan mo dalhin mo na lang sa bubble gang, mas patok ka doon at sa mga tulad mo. Like what I said, you cannot get an answer from me because you don't deserve it.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

YOU IDIOT YOU ARE THE ONE MOCKING JESUS CHRIST-

HINDI KITA KAPATID AT MABUTI SINABI MO WALA AKONG KAPATID NA DEMONYO

PURO KAYO KALOKOHAN SA MGA PINAGSASABI NINYO-

I DONT DESERVE IT? - I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER FROM
YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE AN ANSWER

TO YOUR STUPID STATEMENTS- GOOD YOU ARE TALKING THAT WAY
IN TIME YOU WILL SEE THIS BLOGGED

GETZ MO HA

YOU WHAT - WHY DONT YOU TRY SELLING DVDs INSTEAD

THE WAY YOU REASON OUT AND SAY THINGS - ARE THE WAYS

OF THOSE WHO SELL DVDS IN GREENHILLS-

PATIGASAN NA TALAGA NG MUKHA ANO-

KAPAL MO

SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN  DELA CRUZ:

Hindi po, mali ka po ngh iniisip. Kunin mo po sana sa context ang sinabi ko. You started with mocking my Lord Jesus Christ and my preacher, kaya sinabi ko pong please, don't call me bro, hindi po tayo magkapatid. Whoever that has something evil to say about my God or my preacher is not a brother to me but an enemy. Makuntento ka po dyan.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

YOU SAID THE VERY EVIL THING ABOUT JESUS CHRIST ALREADY

DENYING THAT HE CAME INTO THIS WORLD AS A NORMAL MAN LIKE

EVERY NORMAL HUMAN CAN BE-

SIGE THEN EXPLAIN THE HUMANITY OF JESUS CHRIST-

WAG MO NA AKO PAIKUTIN KO KASI KUNG KAHARAP KITA SA DEBATE

EH ANG MGA TAO ME GAGAWIN NA SA IYO -

OK - SIGE IPALIWANAG MO ANG HUMANITY NI JESUS CHRIST

WHAT KIND OF FLESH DID HE TAKE AND THE BLOOD THAT HE HAS


SAGOT NI MICHAEL DELA CRUZ:

Diego, malinaw po ngayon sa akin na nandito ka sa discussion board para humanap ng taong pasasamain mo sa blog mo. Sana po mabago pa ang nasa isip mo bago ka magkasala ng malaki sa Dios. Hindi po ako natatakot sa gagawin mo, alam po namin na ang mga masasamang tao ay patuloy na gagawang may kasamaan at wala sa masasama na makakaunawa. Alam din po namin na hindi kayo titrigil sa pagpapasama sa daang matuwid ng Panginoon. Kung gagawin mo ito o hindi, magpapasalamat pa po ako ng marami sa aming Dios.

Again Diego, you cannot get any answer from me because you don't deserve it. I'm sorry.Sana po makuntento ka na sa sagot ko.Salamat po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

IPAPAKITA KO LANG SA MUNDO ANG MGA KAGAGUHAN NINYO KAAWAY

DONT EVER MENTION THE NAME OF GOD YOU HAVE NO GOD!!!!!
HINDI KITA TINATAKOT

ANG MGA TAO ANG GAGAWA SA INYO DAHIL SA MGA KAGAGUHANG PINAGSASABI MO DITO KAAWAY
AH YAN ANG SABIHIN MO SA PUNO MO PARA HINDI SIYA NAGTATAGO
SA MGA KAAWAY NIYA

I WAS LOOKING FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND YOU REALLY ENTERTAINED
ME KAAWAY

YEAH YOU DID

YOU KNOW YOU BETTER HAVE YOURSELF CHECKED UP BY A SHRINK

AND FIND OUT IF YOUR STL OK WITH YOUR COCO UP THERE HUH


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

fix me your broken, sa katotohanan po, malinaw ang turo ng kapatid na Eli, sa mga taong binubuksan ng Dios ang unawa. Kung sa yo po hindi malinaw, may dahilan po ang Dios na Sya lamang ang nakakaalam. Again po, kung di po deserving ang taong humihingi ng sagot, di ko po ibibigay. Di po namin dinidios ang kapatid na Eli, malaki lamang po ang paggalang namin sa Kanya dahil Sya po ang sugo ng Dios. Kung di nyo po ito tanggap, makuntento na po sana kayo sa sinabi ko.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

AH SAAN SA BIBLE SINASABI NA ISINUGO SIYA NG DIYOS

SIGE KAAWAY TRY TO CNVINCE ME ON THIS ONE PARA ENTERTAINED NAMAN

AKO SA IYO-


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Diego, you can mock me anytime you want. If the people will judge me according to your standards, then it favors you. But I personally believe that most people are wiser than your level. Basahin mo po ang mga sinabi mo sa akin then ask your conscience kung sa tingin mo nakakuha ka ng kaibigan o ng taong pasasamain sa blog mo.Ikaw lang po ang nagtuturing sa akin na kaaway. I"m sorry, but if you have problems with people who don't want to talk because they want to exercise not involving with useless argumentation, alam mo na po siguro kung sino ang dinidios mo at kaaway po ang hanap mo.You came to the wrong place sir. Better look some place else where they welcome people like you.Be content.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

AT MY LEVEL?

you know I HAVE TO DIG SO LOW IN THE GROUND JUST TO REACH YOUR LEVEL

YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING NOR REASON OUT WITH ANYTHING

YES I WILL BLOG EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID AND IN SEQUENCE

SO PEOPLE WILL FIND OUT HOW STUPID YOU ARE KAAWAY

PROBABLY THE WORLD WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU WHEN THEY READ IT

YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC WAY OF TRYING TO BE SMART

BUT YOU OVERDID YOURSELF AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE COMEDY ALREADY-

WHOEVER YOU ARE - I KNOW HOW IT IS TO BE A PAID HACK-

IT IS A TOUGH WAY TO LIVE

DO YOU FIND IT HARD TO FIND A JOB? probably so-

BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE A FOOL

COME ON MAKE ME LAUGH MORE


SAGOT NI MICHAEL RYAN DELA CRUZ:

Sorry po again to both of you, you don't deserve the answer. Please be content with that. You can stop trying to convice me because I'm hard as a rock with what I stand for.You can say a lot of mockery or lies against me but you will still not get any answer from me.May the Lord God have mercy and enlighten you.Goodbye po.

SAGOT NI TEEWEE:

NO WHO SAID WE ARE OUT TO CONVINCE YOU

STAY PUT IN YOUR CULT-

WE DO NOT NEED YOU IN OURS ANYWAY

WE ARE ONLY SEEKING ENTERTAINMENT FROM YOU

AND YOU REALLY ARE A GOOD ENTERTAINER


SABI NI FIX ME:

si iNgkOng at iKAw ang HINDI DESERVING...

bAkit??? kaSi purO kaYO taKBO...

wahahahahaha!!!

kaPAg naSa deBAte si ingkong pUrO PAGMUMURA aaBUTin ng kaTungaLi...

kaHit sa ExPo ninYO pagMUMURA lang ang bUkam bibiG ng MAesTra mOh...

kawawa ka talga...

taHan nah sA pag-iYak mR.de la cRuz...

kAtoliKo pa yUng sUrname mOh...


naLokO ka sa isang maNLOLOKo...

cgE kita kitz baka mAy sagot ka kUng bAkit ang DioS maY pwet///??


ANO ANG MASASABI MO DITO ELI SORIANO? TULUNGAN MO ANG MIEMBRO MO PARA HINDI NAGMUMUKHANG KAWAWA.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010

THE CATHOLIC 'CRIME' OF CALLING PRIESTS 'FATHER'


Mt 23: 8–10 …Call no man your father…

If this passage was meant to be taken literally, then we all offend the Scripture. We all have used “father” to designate our birth father; and we refer to as “teacher,” our instructors at school. On the other hand, the meaning of the scripture is that no person should be given the respect and honor exclusive to God the Father.


* If we will follow the reasoning of the Anti-Catholics it means that the Protestants, Born Again, Iglesia ni Cristo, ADD who put the name of their biological parent in 'Father' on Birth Certificates and School records will go to hell because they have committed abominable crime against the Lord. They called someone 'father'! [What will they call their male parent then? Well, they can call them 'Dogs' if they want.] I'm not referring to them as dogs; I simply show the absurdity of their position.

BIBLICAL REASONS FOR CALLING VARIOUS PEOPLE ‘FATHER’

If the Protestant interpretation of Mt 23:9 is to be followed the entire GODHEAD SHALL BE DESTROYED!

1. THE FATHER ALMIGHTY Himself will be dishonored because He called people ‘father’. GOD THE FATHER IS GUILTY OF THE CATHOLIC CRIME.

Gen 12:1 He asked Abram to leave his father’s house.

Gen 17:5 He made Abraham father of many nations.

Gen 28:13 He called Abraham father of Jacob.

Ex 3:6 …I am the God of thy FATHER…

Ex 3:16 …say…The LORD God of your FATHERS…

Ex 20:12 HONOUR THY FATHER and thy mother… (Also, Dt 5:16)

Ex 22:17 If her FATHER utterly refuse to give her…

Ex 22:22 Ye shall not afflict any widow, or FATHERless.

Ex 40:15 …anoint them, as thou didst their FATHER…

Lev 18 Yahweh used ‘father’ for people 9 times.

Lev 19:3 Ye shall fear every man his… FATHER…

Num 12:16 If her (Miriam) FATHER had but spit in her face… (also in Num 13:2)

Jer 7: 7, 14, 18, 22, 25-26 Yahweh called people ‘fathers’ 6 times.

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day that I took them by the hand… [Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day I took them by the hand to lead them out of the Land of Egypt…]

Ezek 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your FATHERS; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

2. JESUS TOO WILL BE GUILTY OF THE CATHOLIC CRIME; He is violating His own word.


Mt 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the FATHER the child…

Mt 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his FATHER…

Mt 10:37 He that loveth FATHER or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Mt 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or FATHER…for my name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Lk 12:53 The FATHER shall be divided against the son, and the son against the FATHER…

Lk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his FATHER, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren…he cannot be my disciple.

Lk 16:24 [Jesus narrating ‘The Rich Man and Lazarus’] And he cried and said, FATHER Abraham, have mercy on me… (See also v. 27 & 30)

Lk 18:20 HONOUR THY FATHER and thy mother.

Jn 6:58 This is the bread which came down from heaven: not as your FATHERS did eat manna, and are dead…


3. THE HOLY SPIRIT SHALL BE GUILTY TOO OF THE CRIME because people prophesied by His inspiration and called people ‘father’.

(a) Lk 1: 67 Zechariah was FILLED with the HOLY SPIRIT and later he said:

Lk 1:72-73 ‘To perform the mercy promised to OUR FATHERS, and to remember his holy covenant. The oath which he sware to OUR FATHER Abraham.

(b) Acts 7: 55 referred to St. Stephen as ‘full of the Holy Spirit’ and yet he called people in that same chapter ‘FATHER’ a record of 18 times. If calling people ‘father’ is wrong it presupposed that the Paraclete misled the proto-martyr.

(c) Since the Letter to the Hebrews bear no human authorship the full responsibility goes to the Holy Spirit who inspired it.

Heb 1:1 God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the FATHERS by the prophets…

Heb 3:9 When your FATHERS tempted me, proved me, and saw my works for forty years.

Heb 7:3 [Melchizedek] Without FATHER, without mother…

Heb 7:10 For he [Levi] was yet in the loins of his FATHER, when Melchizedek met him [Abraham].

Heb 12:7 …for what son is he whom the FATHER chasteneth not?

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had FATHERS of our flesh which corrected us…

4. JACOB IS GUILTY

Gen 28:21 So that I come again to my FATHER’s house in peace… [KJV]

Gen 49:2, 4, 25, 28 Jacob spoke the word ‘father’ or ‘fathers’ for people 5 times.

5. JOSEPH THE DREAMER IS ALSO GUILTY

Gen 50:5 My FATHER made me swear…Now therefore let me go, I pray thee [pharaoh], and bury my FATHER…

6. THE BENEVOLENT PHARAOH [Master of Joseph the Dreamer] IS GUILTY

Gen 50:6 And Pharaoh said, Go up, and bury thy FATHER…

7. MOSES IS GUILTY

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his FATHER and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife…[Moses, by tradition, is the human author of the book of Genesis] See also Gen 4: 20-21/ 9: 18, 22-23/ 50: 1, 8, 14-15, 22.

Dt 4:1 …go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your FATHERS giveth you.

Dt 5:3 The Lord made not this covenant with OUR FATHERS, but with us…

Dt 8:1 …and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your FATHERS.

See also Dt 6: 3, 10, 18, 23/ 7: 8, 12-13/ 8: 3/ 10: 11, 15/ 33: 9

8. JOSHUA IS GUILTY



Josh 24: 2-3, 6, 14-15, 17 He called people ‘fathers’ six times.

9. KING DAVID IS GUILTY

1 Sam 24:11 Moreover, my FATHER [he was talking to King Saul], see, yea, see the skirt of thy robe in my hand… Jewish Tradition ascribed the Book of Psalms to King David then this statement could be attributed to him under Divine Inspiration: (a) Ps 22:4 (b) Ps 27:10 (c) Ps 44:1 (d) Ps 45:10,16 (e) Ps 49:19 (f) Ps 68:5 (g) Ps 78:3,5,12,57 (h) Ps 95:9 (i) Ps 103:13 (j) Ps 106:6-7 (k) Ps 110:9,14

10. KING SOLOMON IS GUILTY

2 Chron 6:4,7-8,10,15-16 Solomon delivered this ‘sacrilegious’ speech during the completion of the Temple. Imagine he called David ‘my father’ 6 times. 2 Chron 6:25,31,38 Solomon called other people ‘fathers’ 3 times. N.B.: In 2 Chron 7:1 the Sacred Scripture states that Yahweh responded with FIRE FROM HEAVEN , but not out of anger in order to kill Solomon for calling people ‘father’ right inside the sacred Temple. Instead, the fire consumed the offerings as a sign of divine acceptance. Moreover, the glory of the Lord (Shekinah) filled the house. If Solomon committed a sin against the Holy Name of Yahweh by calling others as ‘father’ why did God accept his sacrifice? See Prov 1: 8/ 4: 1,3/ 13:1/ 17:6,21/ 19:13-14,26

11. KING JOSHAPAT IS GUILTY

2 Chron 19:8 Moreover in Jerusalem did Jehoshapat set of the Levites, and of the priests, and of the chief of the FATHERS of Israel…

12. THE PROPHET ELISHA IS GUILTY

2 Kgs 2:12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My FATHER, My FATHER [referring to the prophet Elijah], the chariot of Israel… [It means that a Man of God can be referred to as 'Father'].

13. THE PROPHET ISAIAH IS GUILTY

Is 49:23 And kings shall be thy nursing FATHERS…

14. THE PROPHET JEREMIAH IS GUILTY

Jer 25:5 …Turn ye again now every one from his evil ways…that the Lord hath given unto you and to your FATHERS forever and ever.

15. JOB IS GUILTY

Job 29:16 I was a FATHER to the poor: and the cause which I knew not I searched out.

16. THE PROPHET NEHEMIAH IS GUILTY

Neh 9:2,9,32,34 Nehemiah called people ‘father’ 4 times.

17. THE PROPHET DANIEL IS GUILTY

Dan 9:8 O Lord, to us belonged confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to OUR FATHERS…

Dan 9:16 …for our sins, and for the iniquities of OUR FATHERS…

18. THE ANGEL OF THE LORD IS GUILTY

Jgs 6: 13,15, 25,27 Speaking to Gideon, the Angel of the Lord called people ‘father’ 5 times.

19. THE PROPHET MALACHI IS GUILTY

Mal 3:7 Even from the days of your FATHERS…

Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the FATHERS to their children, and the heart of the children to their FATHERS.

20. MARY IS GUILTY TOO

Lk 1:55 As he spoke to our FATHERS, to Abraham, and to his seed forever. [KJV]

21. ST. PETER IS GUILTY ALSO

Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our FATHERS… (Peter’s speech at the Temple Gate). v. 22 For Moses truly said unto the FATHERS…v.25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with OUR FATHERS…

Acts 5:30 The God of OUR FATHERS raised up Jesus…

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither OUR FATHERS nor we were able to bear?

1 Pet 1:18 …ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your FATHERS.

2 Pt 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For since the FATHERS fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

22. ST. PAUL IS GUILTY

Acts 13:17 The God of this people of Israel chose OUR FATHERS…

Acts 13:32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto THE FATHERS…

Acts 13:36 For David…was laid unto his FATHERS, and saw corruption.

Acts 22:1 Men, brethren and FATHERS, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.

Acts 22:3 I am verily a man which am a Jew…and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the FATHERS…

Acts 26:6 And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto OUR FATHERS.

Acts 28:17 …Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of OUR FATHERS…

Acts 28:25 …Well spake the Holy Ghost by Isaiah the prophet unto OUR FATHERS…

Rom 4:1,12,16 & 18 In these passages St. Paul called Abraham ‘father’ 4 times.

Rom 9:5 Whose are the FATHERS, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 9:10 …but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by OUR FATHER Isaac.

1 Cor 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all OUR FATHERS were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea.

Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews’ religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my FATHERS.

Efeso 3:14-15 Dahil dito, ako’y naninikluhod sa Ama, na siyang pinagtutularan ng PAGKAAMA sa bawat sambahayan sa langit at sa lupa. [Magandang Balita Biblia]

Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his FATHER…

Col 3:21 FATHERS, provoke not your children to anger…

1 Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man…for murderers of FATHERS…

23. ST. MATTHEW IS GUILTY

Mt 1:2-16 The Genealogy (FATHER is used 39 times in NIV, NRSV, NLT, Magandang Balita Biblia, NAB and The Jerusalem Bible).

Mt 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his FATHER Herod…

Mt 4:21-22 …James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, in a ship with Zebedee their FATHER…And they immediately left the ship and their FATHER…

24. ST. MARK IS GUILTY

Mk 15:21 And they compel one Simon a Cyrenean, who passed by, coming out of the country, THE FATHER of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.

25. ST. LUKE IS GUILTY

Lk 1:59 And they named him Zacharias, after the name of his FATHER.

Lk 1:62 And they made signs to his FATHER…

Lk 1:67 And his FATHER Zechariah was filled with the Holy Ghost…

Acts 16:1,3 …Timothy, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his FATHER was a Greek… for they knew all that his FATHER was a Greek.

Acts 28:8 And it came to pass, that the FATHER of Publius lay sick…

26. ST. JOHN IS GUILTY

Jn 4:53 So, the FATHER knew that it was at the same hour…

1 Jn 2:13-14 I write unto you, FATHERS, because ye have known him that is from the beginning… I have written unto you, FATHERS…

27. THE ARCHANGEL GABRIEL IS GUILTY

Lk 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the FATHERS to the children…

28. ST. STEPHEN IS GUILTY

Acts 7 He called peoples FATHER 18 times.

29. ZECHARIAH [The Father of John the Baptist] IS GUILTY

Lk 1:72-73 ‘To perform the mercy promised to OUR FATHERS, and to remember his holy covenant. The oath which he sware to OUR FATHER Abraham.

30. THE SAMARITAN WOMAN IS GUILTY

Jn 4:20 OUR FATHERS worshipped in this mountain…

31. ANANIAS [the man sent by God to baptized Paul] IS GUILTY

Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of OUR FATHERS… • Catholic Christians call the priests “father” with the sense understood by St. Paul. 1 Cor 4:14–16 I am writing you this not to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet YOU DO NOT HAVE MANY FATHERS, for I became your FATHER in Christ Jesus through the gospel. Therefore, I urge you, be imitators of me. [NAB]

1 Cor 4:14–16 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a FATHER doth his children…

1 Tim 5:1 Rebuke not an elder (Presbuteros, Priest), but entreat him as a FATHER… Phil 2:22 But ye know the proof of him, that, as a son with the FATHER, he [Timothy] hath served with me in the gospel.

ON CALLING THE POPE ‘HOLY FATHER’

Is 22:21,23-24 …he [Eliakim, the keeper of the key] shall be a FATHER to the inhabitants of Jerusalem…and he shall be for a glorious throne to his FATHER’s house…And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his FATHER’s house.

Bear in mind that The Book of Isaiah is a prophetic book. It is particularly a prophesy concerning the coming of the Messiah and His Kingdom. The above chapter (Is 22) if will be read completely will lead us to Mt 16: 18-19.

Like Eliakim, St. Peter received from Jesus the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, thus making him the Prime Minister of the Kingdom with the power to bind and to loose above any other with the exception of the King Himself.

One of the title given to the Holder of the Keys is that he shall be called FATHER. The Pope, as successor of Peter, is called HOLY FATHER... With the adjective ‘Holy’ because he is the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Heaven not just of the Davidic kingdom.

BASED ON THE NUMEROUS PASSAGES PRESENTED ABOVE THESE CLASSES OF PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED ‘FATHER’:

• Biological Father • Patriarchs • Ancestors • Kings (as David did to Saul, 1 Sam 24:11, Isaiah 49:23) • Government Leaders (e.g., Eliakim, the Royal Steward – Is 22: 21, 23-24) • PETER & his SUCCESSORS (The Keeper of the Keys) Mt16: 18-19 & Is 22: 21, 23-24 • APOSTLES & BISHOPS (1 Cor 4:14–16/ 1 Cor 4:14–16/ Phil 2:22) • PRESBYTERS AND PRIESTS (Judges 17:9-10/ 1 Tim 5:1)

N.B. The Catholic word ‘priest’ was a shortened version of the Presbyter. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary provides the etymology [ME preist, fr. OE preost, ultim. fr. LL presbyter elder, priest, fr. Gk presbyteros, fr. compar. of presbys old man, elder].

WELL, WELL, WELL! THE BIBLE IS VERY CATHOLIC, ISN’T IT? BECAUSE IT IS A CATHOLIC BOOK! IF YOU WILL FOLLOW THE PROTESTANT AND BORN-AGAIN INTERPRETATION THE SACRED SCRIPTURES THEMSELVES SHALL LOOSE THEIR DIVINE INSPIRATION. SIMPLY STATED THEIR POSITION IS ABSURD, ILLOGICAL AND UNBIBLICAL!


Source: The Splendor Of the Church